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<blockquote data-quote="satori01" data-source="post: 5872701" data-attributes="member: 7859">I would also state I am not a fan of huge + D6 Sneak Attack Bonuses ala 3E because the emphasis becomes less about the flavorful attack, and about getting more attacks so you have a huge pile of dice to rollI frankly find that there are three separate memes embodied in the Rogue class that could be individual classes:The Thief:&nbsp; think 1e/2e ....Backstab should be there, but the focus of the class should be general rapscalion behavior.&nbsp; Think any of the guys from Ocean's Eleven...they were not slick killers that could open locks...they were Thieves.If they had to fight something went wrong.&nbsp; The Swashbuckler:&nbsp; The Trope is pretty obvious, from The Three Musketeers to Jack Sparrow.&nbsp; The class should be capable in combat, but have maneuvers not Sneak Attack.&nbsp; While Jack Sparrow might be capable of a backstab, his style is more about panache and using the environment, and movement.The Assasin: 1e I think got it right for the most part...just allow for a Ninja path and it works fine.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="satori01, post: 5872701, member: 7859"] I would also state I am not a fan of huge + D6 Sneak Attack Bonuses ala 3E because the emphasis becomes less about the flavorful attack, and about getting more attacks so you have a huge pile of dice to roll I frankly find that there are three separate memes embodied in the Rogue class that could be individual classes: The Thief: think 1e/2e ....Backstab should be there, but the focus of the class should be general rapscalion behavior. Think any of the guys from Ocean's Eleven...they were not slick killers that could open locks...they were Thieves. If they had to fight something went wrong. The Swashbuckler: The Trope is pretty obvious, from The Three Musketeers to Jack Sparrow. The class should be capable in combat, but have maneuvers not Sneak Attack. While Jack Sparrow might be capable of a backstab, his style is more about panache and using the environment, and movement. The Assasin: 1e I think got it right for the most part...just allow for a Ninja path and it works fine. [/QUOTE]

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