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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 8399920" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>Which I do; the Cleric class doesn't have any alignment gates on it thus there needs to be at least one deity of each alignment such that players who want to play a Cleric of any given alignment have a deity to follow (and yes I allow evil PCs).</p><p></p><p>If a major demon or devil (e.g. Asmodeus) fills the role of a deity (and thus, gets promoted to deity status) then the lessers beneath him are his minions, much like valkyries are the minions of some Norse deities and angels are the minions of a Judeo-Christian-style god. No problem there.</p><p></p><p>With a very few deities (of which, ironically, Gruumsh is one) I have it that they existed before any life and in fact created it. Then, once life got going these few deities took on those proto-cultures that suited them - Gruumsh took Orcs, Moradin took Dwarves, etc. - and drew/increased their power through the worship granted by their followers. There's a very specific number of these founding deities: five major ones plus 16 others covering every possible combination of the 9 alignments and male-female; nearly all other deities are "aspects" of these 21 (and boy did it ever come as a shock to a few players with long-time Corellon Clerics when they learned Corellon isn't really Corellon at all but is in fact just an aspect of a Gnome deity!) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Other than those few "founding" deities, I have it that a deity with no worshippers can't really do anything other than exist as a powerless but immortal being.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 8399920, member: 29398"] Which I do; the Cleric class doesn't have any alignment gates on it thus there needs to be at least one deity of each alignment such that players who want to play a Cleric of any given alignment have a deity to follow (and yes I allow evil PCs). If a major demon or devil (e.g. Asmodeus) fills the role of a deity (and thus, gets promoted to deity status) then the lessers beneath him are his minions, much like valkyries are the minions of some Norse deities and angels are the minions of a Judeo-Christian-style god. No problem there. With a very few deities (of which, ironically, Gruumsh is one) I have it that they existed before any life and in fact created it. Then, once life got going these few deities took on those proto-cultures that suited them - Gruumsh took Orcs, Moradin took Dwarves, etc. - and drew/increased their power through the worship granted by their followers. There's a very specific number of these founding deities: five major ones plus 16 others covering every possible combination of the 9 alignments and male-female; nearly all other deities are "aspects" of these 21 (and boy did it ever come as a shock to a few players with long-time Corellon Clerics when they learned Corellon isn't really Corellon at all but is in fact just an aspect of a Gnome deity!) :) Other than those few "founding" deities, I have it that a deity with no worshippers can't really do anything other than exist as a powerless but immortal being. [/QUOTE]
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