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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 8400074" data-attributes="member: 6677017">The reason we don't hear about them is 5e has so far not chosen to present the races they are the "arch"s of. We have the LE devils with their Lords of the Nine and other archdevils, the CE demons with their various Princes, and the NE Yugoloths with a tiny bit mentioned about some of their high-ups. We also have the LN modrons with Primus, and the CN slaadi with someone whose name escapes me but is statted up in 5e somewhere.What we don't have are the 6 or 7 varieties of LG archons of Mount Celestia to be ruled by the 7 or so individual arch-archons, the 7 or so varieties of NG guardinals of Elysium to be guided by the 7 individual arch-guardinals, or the 7 varieties of CG eladrin (not to be confused with the eladrin of 4e and 5e--these eladrin were the celestial "angelic" equivalent to demons, not a type of fey or elf) to be led by their individual arch-eladrin (might only have been 3 of those).So, yeah, it does stand out, because they chose to leave out that cool and interesting depth that could bring more sense to it, and now there is a weird hole. (To be fair, they were running out of space in the MM and had to add more pages than intended or even more (including modrons) wouldn't have made the cut. Also to be fair, it's been a long time and they still haven't done it. Too bad more people aren't talking about it so they can see demand.)</blockquote>