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<blockquote data-quote="Hexmage-EN" data-source="post: 8401513" data-attributes="member: 79428"><p>As for the differences between evil gods and fiends:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">By default, fiends apply to the whole D&D multiverse, whereas gods are usually more specific to campaign settings.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fiends in general fight against one another (the Blood War, the myriad conflicts of the Abyss, etc) in the Outer Planes more often than they turn their attention to the world (IIRC, at least one source claimed that most demon lords were too busy fighting one another to ever get a chance to affect the mortal world). Evil gods are more secure in their station, in contrast, and can spend more time trying to influence the worlds of mortals.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">There was more variety in regards to demon lords in particular prior to 5E. Lots of unique demon lords were mentioned in 2E and 3E especially, and to a lesser extent in 4E (<a href="https://zims-en.kiwix.campusafrica.gos.orange.com/wikipedia_en_all_nopic/A/List_of_demon_lords_in_Dungeons_&_Dragons" target="_blank">Here's a good source on a larger array of demon lords, complete with citations</a>). In contrast, 5E has largely stuck to the most popular demon lords to the point that one of the adventures in Ghosts of Saltmarsh was altered to have the villain, who worshiped an obscure demon lord, instead worship Lolth.</li> </ul><p>Demon Lords Featured in 5E</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Baphomet</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Demogorgon</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fraz-Urb'luu</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Graz'zt</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Juiblex</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Kostchtchie</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Orcus</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Juiblex</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Yeenoghu</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Zuggtmoy</li> </ul><p>A Sampling of Other Demon Lords I Personally Find Interesting</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ahazu, Keeper of the Wells of Darkness (a prison in the Abyss)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Alrunes, Demon Lord of Protection and Sisterhood (very curious what her deal is)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Azuvidexus, the Ravenous Maw (a t-rex possessed by a demon lord)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bechard, Demon Lord of Storms (demon whale beached in Yeenoghu's realm)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Codricuhn, the Blood Storm (it's own layer of the Abyss orbit arounds it)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Eldanoth, Demon Lord of Crime</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Felex'ja, the Tiger King</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Haagenti, Demon Lord of Alchemy and Artifice (according to 4E's Demonomicon, Zuggtmoy lets him take samples from her fungal gardens for his experiments)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Malcanthet, Queen of the Succubi (4E established that Lilith was her rival in the Nine Hells for Queen of the Succubi)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Obox-Ob, the First Prince of Demons</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Queen of Chaos (featured in the classic Rod of Seven Parts adventure)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Shaktari, Queen of the Mariliths (her realm was featured in the 2E adventure Nemesis, and she got a statblock in the final print issue of Dragon Magazine)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ugudenk, The Squirming King (colossal worm that, in 4E, was said to be the offspring of the god Torog and Zuggtmoy)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Zuregurex, Lord of the Drowned Dead</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hexmage-EN, post: 8401513, member: 79428"] As for the differences between evil gods and fiends: [LIST] [*]By default, fiends apply to the whole D&D multiverse, whereas gods are usually more specific to campaign settings. [*]Fiends in general fight against one another (the Blood War, the myriad conflicts of the Abyss, etc) in the Outer Planes more often than they turn their attention to the world (IIRC, at least one source claimed that most demon lords were too busy fighting one another to ever get a chance to affect the mortal world). Evil gods are more secure in their station, in contrast, and can spend more time trying to influence the worlds of mortals. [*]There was more variety in regards to demon lords in particular prior to 5E. Lots of unique demon lords were mentioned in 2E and 3E especially, and to a lesser extent in 4E ([URL='https://zims-en.kiwix.campusafrica.gos.orange.com/wikipedia_en_all_nopic/A/List_of_demon_lords_in_Dungeons_&_Dragons']Here's a good source on a larger array of demon lords, complete with citations[/URL]). In contrast, 5E has largely stuck to the most popular demon lords to the point that one of the adventures in Ghosts of Saltmarsh was altered to have the villain, who worshiped an obscure demon lord, instead worship Lolth. [/LIST] Demon Lords Featured in 5E [LIST] [*]Baphomet [*]Demogorgon [*]Fraz-Urb'luu [*]Graz'zt [*]Juiblex [*]Kostchtchie [*]Orcus [*]Juiblex [*]Yeenoghu [*]Zuggtmoy [/LIST] A Sampling of Other Demon Lords I Personally Find Interesting [LIST] [*]Ahazu, Keeper of the Wells of Darkness (a prison in the Abyss) [*]Alrunes, Demon Lord of Protection and Sisterhood (very curious what her deal is) [*]Azuvidexus, the Ravenous Maw (a t-rex possessed by a demon lord) [*]Bechard, Demon Lord of Storms (demon whale beached in Yeenoghu's realm) [*]Codricuhn, the Blood Storm (it's own layer of the Abyss orbit arounds it) [*]Eldanoth, Demon Lord of Crime [*]Felex'ja, the Tiger King [*]Haagenti, Demon Lord of Alchemy and Artifice (according to 4E's Demonomicon, Zuggtmoy lets him take samples from her fungal gardens for his experiments) [*]Malcanthet, Queen of the Succubi (4E established that Lilith was her rival in the Nine Hells for Queen of the Succubi) [*]Obox-Ob, the First Prince of Demons [*]The Queen of Chaos (featured in the classic Rod of Seven Parts adventure) [*]Shaktari, Queen of the Mariliths (her realm was featured in the 2E adventure Nemesis, and she got a statblock in the final print issue of Dragon Magazine) [*]Ugudenk, The Squirming King (colossal worm that, in 4E, was said to be the offspring of the god Torog and Zuggtmoy) [*]Zuregurex, Lord of the Drowned Dead [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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