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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8401592" data-attributes="member: 6855114">And the Jotun of Asgaard? Or the Indian mythos? Or South American mythology in which you placate the gods to make them not do evil? Or the Assyrian mythos? Babylonian? Or even the Judeo Christian? Nahhhhhhhh! It is not in the minority. In fact, if you go by the amount of worshipers, it migth even be one of the most common trope in the religious history.It is not the trope. It is a trope. A big difference here.Whether you like it or not is irrelevant. That was part of the game and it was a great thing that made cleric a relevant class. It also explained quite a lot about demons and devils trying to emulate the gods in the hopes of stealing some of their powers for themselves. Without that, you are left with yourself questionning the role of evil gods and if their existence should be a thing. You have to retcon things so that your solution works out but your solution leaves out the why and how cleric should still be a thing. And who knows, maybe it is only one evil god that is working through out your devils and demons. Tharzidun is known for doing this on a wide scale...</blockquote>