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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8404132" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Why not? Or is this a case of "obviously he can't because he hasn't" Which means that he absolutely could, and might be doing so on other Primes? </p><p></p><p>Also, looking at Helldritch's immortals rulebook as a baseline measuring, he said that PP (I'm assuming power points) allowed Immortals to act in a location. Therefore, the more places you can act, the more PP you would have. If Asmodeus is acting in a near-infinite number of places, then his PP must be astronomical, if not near infinite. Under this model, if we accept it, how could Bane possibly be more powerful? He may be more powerful <strong><em>in Faerun</em></strong>, where he has invested his power, but that is only because, in your argument, Asmodeus isn't <strong><em>trying </em></strong>to invest a sizable portion of his power there.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then instead of arguing the value of evil gods (which is the discussion I thought we were having) you are arguing about which god is bigger and scarier. Not the point. </p><p></p><p>Though, I suppose if Archdevils and Demon Lords are already gods, then the question is answered. Because if they are all gods, then the real question is why we have evil gods that aren't fiends.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>His stated goals are the subjugation of reality. If you want to change that, go ahead, but at this point you are rewriting Asmodeus to fit your model, instead of looking at the protrayed substance.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How is the Tyrannical Lord of the Nine Hells, the embodiment of Lawful Evil, all about indulgence?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Likely because I thought you were engaging in a good faith discussion on the issue of evil gods vs archdevils and Demon Lords, not engaging in a discussion of evil gods versus evil gods, which was not what this discussion was about. </p><p></p><p>Asmodeus was not being considered a god in these discussions, and so I did not assume that made that assumption. If I had realized that, I would have corrected course and made sure we were actually discussing the topic of the thread.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So a near infinite being of Tyranny... gave up? When Bane died, why didn't he just snap up that portfolio then? </p><p></p><p>And frankly, if his power is nearly infinite as an Archdevil, why does he care about achieving minor godhood in Faerun? It is a single continent on a single planet in a single reality, that is nothing compared with his influence across an infinite number of planes. </p><p></p><p>What is so special about godhood that he would seek it out in this context?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8404132, member: 6801228"] Why not? Or is this a case of "obviously he can't because he hasn't" Which means that he absolutely could, and might be doing so on other Primes? Also, looking at Helldritch's immortals rulebook as a baseline measuring, he said that PP (I'm assuming power points) allowed Immortals to act in a location. Therefore, the more places you can act, the more PP you would have. If Asmodeus is acting in a near-infinite number of places, then his PP must be astronomical, if not near infinite. Under this model, if we accept it, how could Bane possibly be more powerful? He may be more powerful [B][I]in Faerun[/I][/B], where he has invested his power, but that is only because, in your argument, Asmodeus isn't [B][I]trying [/I][/B]to invest a sizable portion of his power there. Then instead of arguing the value of evil gods (which is the discussion I thought we were having) you are arguing about which god is bigger and scarier. Not the point. Though, I suppose if Archdevils and Demon Lords are already gods, then the question is answered. Because if they are all gods, then the real question is why we have evil gods that aren't fiends. His stated goals are the subjugation of reality. If you want to change that, go ahead, but at this point you are rewriting Asmodeus to fit your model, instead of looking at the protrayed substance. How is the Tyrannical Lord of the Nine Hells, the embodiment of Lawful Evil, all about indulgence? Likely because I thought you were engaging in a good faith discussion on the issue of evil gods vs archdevils and Demon Lords, not engaging in a discussion of evil gods versus evil gods, which was not what this discussion was about. Asmodeus was not being considered a god in these discussions, and so I did not assume that made that assumption. If I had realized that, I would have corrected course and made sure we were actually discussing the topic of the thread. So a near infinite being of Tyranny... gave up? When Bane died, why didn't he just snap up that portfolio then? And frankly, if his power is nearly infinite as an Archdevil, why does he care about achieving minor godhood in Faerun? It is a single continent on a single planet in a single reality, that is nothing compared with his influence across an infinite number of planes. What is so special about godhood that he would seek it out in this context? [/QUOTE]
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