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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8405902" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Ah, I didn't realize you had put agreed with the sentiment that there is no real purpose to the Evil Gods, beyond having them to have them. Yes, if you have reached that point then the only thing left is to homebrew solutions, and I liked some of yours in theory. I had my own that I implemented.Just checking, because the end of the Blood War is generally considered to be the point when the winning forces turn to the Material plane, so I'm not seeing much of a difference here.An interesting way to take it. Except that the Devils do make deals for souls. Sure, maybe any given Lawful Evil soul gets taken to the Nine Hells, but then it is just picked up by whoever. Devils who don't focus on the material plane to some extent tend to end up weaker, unless they have something to offer those hags, because they have to fight and search for souls, while those who make contracts are guaranteed souls. I'd say the same thing happens with the Demon Lords. Worship them, pledge to them, and your soul is send directly to them, instead of them having to grub in the dirt for a larva. It isn't icing, it is delivery. Also, while it may have fallen out of style, there is the divide of the mortal into soul and animus, which means that they might be able to get the soul for power, and use the animus to create a fiend, making it a two for one deal. So, not essential in the same manner, if we go with the idea of a god without worshipers dying, but still important enough to be a priority to them as well.I disagree entirely. The Material plane is the only source for more devils, you may have them showing up randomly in the Styx, but that is much less efficient then getting them to pledge directly to you, denying all your rivals the potential to obtain those mortals. Demons might care less.... except that they are embodiments of destruction, they have an intense desire to destroy the material plane, by their very nature. So, there isn't really a reason for them not to go to the prime, at least as much as they currently do. After all, they don't just need resources to fight Demons vs Devils, but also Demons vs Demons and Devils vs Devils... conflicts that are still ongoing despite the Blood War</blockquote>

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