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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8406676" data-attributes="member: 42582">This seems like a fine set-up for a FRPG.D&D 4e approximates it, but doesn't fully agree with it. Devils are trapped in the Nine Hells but are part of the cosmic order and play a crucial role in that respect (because of their war upon the Abyss).GH somewhat approximates it - Iuz, the Horned Society, the Temple of Elemental Evil are all big deals that send crusaders smiting. But in GH this is equally true of evil gods, who are not, in general, important parts of the cosmic order who helped trap the devils and demons. They are more likely to be collaborators with them (eg Incabulos summons fiends, from memory demodands but maybe daemons? I don't recall Hextor being an enemy of devils; etc).Which again reinforces that there is no robust textual support for a claim that D&D mandates a strong contrast between evil gods and demons/devils. They have frequently been treated as equivalent in their functions both in world-building and in scenarios.My position in this discussion is the same as what I've quoted here. Which is that, over the corpus of published material, including some of the best-known material (modules D3 and T1; the module Dead Gods; the AD&D DDG; the WoG; MMs from both AD&D and 4e), there has been no systematic distinction drawn between evil gods, archdevils and demon lords in terms of their capacity to have clerics, or their role in the fiction.</blockquote>