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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8407696" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Just because something is in the Core Books doesn't mean it isn't setting specific. After all, that section includes a discussion of Sigil, the City of Doors, and the Outlands, along with Gate Towns. And aren't those all details specific to the Planescape setting? And the Great Wheel certainly seems like a setting detail that references specific settings. So does the Elemental Chaos. </p><p></p><p>Sure, they don't come out and say "in the land of Greyhawk" but that doesn't mean these aren't setting details that are being told to us in the Core Book</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Really? Isn't the Egyptian Pantheon specifically in the Forgotten Realms? I know Tyr from the Norse Pantheon is, and that part of the existence of Oerth in Greyhawk was predicated on the existence of Earth in the DnD world, explaining how these Deities from our history show up in DnD</p><p></p><p>Plus they all showed up in Planescape, another setting.</p><p></p><p>Finally, "you can reference the real world or make up your own" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for non-setting specific things. Yeah, I know I can homebrew, but the book doesn't provide my homebrewed gods. And I know I can pull things from the real world, so the book providing them doesn't exactly give me anything "non-setting specific" as much as it translates things from the real-world into the DnD world. I could do the same thing with other religions too. </p><p></p><p>So, I think between explicitly referencing other settings or referencing the real world, calling one homebrew and the other "core" is a bit of a stretch. Loki isn't "core" to DnD. Loki is a Norse god that gets called up in dozen of fantasy works, because people like to reference Norse Mythology.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8407696, member: 6801228"] Just because something is in the Core Books doesn't mean it isn't setting specific. After all, that section includes a discussion of Sigil, the City of Doors, and the Outlands, along with Gate Towns. And aren't those all details specific to the Planescape setting? And the Great Wheel certainly seems like a setting detail that references specific settings. So does the Elemental Chaos. Sure, they don't come out and say "in the land of Greyhawk" but that doesn't mean these aren't setting details that are being told to us in the Core Book Really? Isn't the Egyptian Pantheon specifically in the Forgotten Realms? I know Tyr from the Norse Pantheon is, and that part of the existence of Oerth in Greyhawk was predicated on the existence of Earth in the DnD world, explaining how these Deities from our history show up in DnD Plus they all showed up in Planescape, another setting. Finally, "you can reference the real world or make up your own" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for non-setting specific things. Yeah, I know I can homebrew, but the book doesn't provide my homebrewed gods. And I know I can pull things from the real world, so the book providing them doesn't exactly give me anything "non-setting specific" as much as it translates things from the real-world into the DnD world. I could do the same thing with other religions too. So, I think between explicitly referencing other settings or referencing the real world, calling one homebrew and the other "core" is a bit of a stretch. Loki isn't "core" to DnD. Loki is a Norse god that gets called up in dozen of fantasy works, because people like to reference Norse Mythology. [/QUOTE]
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