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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8407702" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>One could potentially try and make that argument, but "universal" is more "tied to the real world" in the case of real-life pantheons. I don't think that really should count as "core DnD"</p><p></p><p>And, again, since the claim is that every single setting is homebrew, well, "gruumsh" is tied to settings. Which makes him homebrew. Specifically he is tied to Greyhawk and the Forgotten Realsm, he doesn't really exist outside of those, and as Max pointed out, the core books seem to assume a lot of Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk as the "default" of the core. Which makes them homebrew under the argument, which again I am saying is just highly extreme.</p><p></p><p>Edit: After all, let us say that those dieties are non-setting specific and therefore not homebrew. What do we know about them? Well, that depends on the setting. Where do they live? That references the settings. You have to then make those things non-setting specific, and at that point, you are basically just making whichever settings story you want to go with the core, which makes it non-homebrew, which then defeats the argument that I am saying is not a good argument.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8407702, member: 6801228"] One could potentially try and make that argument, but "universal" is more "tied to the real world" in the case of real-life pantheons. I don't think that really should count as "core DnD" And, again, since the claim is that every single setting is homebrew, well, "gruumsh" is tied to settings. Which makes him homebrew. Specifically he is tied to Greyhawk and the Forgotten Realsm, he doesn't really exist outside of those, and as Max pointed out, the core books seem to assume a lot of Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk as the "default" of the core. Which makes them homebrew under the argument, which again I am saying is just highly extreme. Edit: After all, let us say that those dieties are non-setting specific and therefore not homebrew. What do we know about them? Well, that depends on the setting. Where do they live? That references the settings. You have to then make those things non-setting specific, and at that point, you are basically just making whichever settings story you want to go with the core, which makes it non-homebrew, which then defeats the argument that I am saying is not a good argument. [/QUOTE]
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