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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8407915" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>The Core is setting agnostic.</p><p></p><p>So far, nearly all of the published adventures have taken plane in the Realms. Thus making it the default setting for adventures.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Depends on the setting. In the Realms (judging by what I've read on the wiki), gods seem to fight each other for portfolios or at least kill each other and take the dead god's portfolio.</p><p></p><p>Have you ever read or played the In Nomine RPG? If not, the basic concept is that demons and angels are fighting for the hearts and minds of humanity, and the primary way they do that is by taking Words, each of which represent a theme in the cosmic Sympathy. By taking these Words, they can give them a more good or evil "feel" among humanity, and thus influence humanity to one side or another. The Words held by the archangels and demon princes are extremely broad and powerful. But under them, the lower-ranked celestials (a term used for both angels and demons) may have Words that represent minor aspects of of the greater Word. The game likes to use the following as an example: there's Saminga, Demon Prince of Death. Somewhere under him, there's the demon with the Word of Choking to Death. And under <em>that </em>demon, there's one with the Word of Choking to Death on Chicken Bones. All three exist, even though Saminga's Word contains the other two.</p><p></p><p>Extrapolate that to what Maxperson said. In the Realms, you have Istishia, greater god of elemental water. It won't actually increase his power or give him any other benefits if he kills Umberlee, intermediate goddess of the oceans, or Eldath, lesser goddess of pools and waterfalls, and takes their portfolio.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The Realms seems to have a rule where each portfolio can only be held by one god. Greyhawk doesn't have that rule. </p><p></p><p>Also, Wee Jas is the god of death and magic (extrapolation: necromancy spells), Boccob is the god of magical knowledge and foresight (extrapolation: divination spells), and Vecna is the god of evil secrets (and probably only grants Magic and Knowledge because he is/was a lich). There's no actual overlap here.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you only look at the last three parts of Cuthbert's portfolio, it does look like Heironeous'. Which is why you have to look at Cuthbert's <em>entire </em>portfolio, which very clearly makes the two gods very different. Cuthbert is not a knight in shining armor. If anything, he's the old guy who tells you important info and then smacks you over the head with his cudgel when you don't listen to him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8407915, member: 6915329"] The Core is setting agnostic. So far, nearly all of the published adventures have taken plane in the Realms. Thus making it the default setting for adventures. Depends on the setting. In the Realms (judging by what I've read on the wiki), gods seem to fight each other for portfolios or at least kill each other and take the dead god's portfolio. Have you ever read or played the In Nomine RPG? If not, the basic concept is that demons and angels are fighting for the hearts and minds of humanity, and the primary way they do that is by taking Words, each of which represent a theme in the cosmic Sympathy. By taking these Words, they can give them a more good or evil "feel" among humanity, and thus influence humanity to one side or another. The Words held by the archangels and demon princes are extremely broad and powerful. But under them, the lower-ranked celestials (a term used for both angels and demons) may have Words that represent minor aspects of of the greater Word. The game likes to use the following as an example: there's Saminga, Demon Prince of Death. Somewhere under him, there's the demon with the Word of Choking to Death. And under [I]that [/I]demon, there's one with the Word of Choking to Death on Chicken Bones. All three exist, even though Saminga's Word contains the other two. Extrapolate that to what Maxperson said. In the Realms, you have Istishia, greater god of elemental water. It won't actually increase his power or give him any other benefits if he kills Umberlee, intermediate goddess of the oceans, or Eldath, lesser goddess of pools and waterfalls, and takes their portfolio. The Realms seems to have a rule where each portfolio can only be held by one god. Greyhawk doesn't have that rule. Also, Wee Jas is the god of death and magic (extrapolation: necromancy spells), Boccob is the god of magical knowledge and foresight (extrapolation: divination spells), and Vecna is the god of evil secrets (and probably only grants Magic and Knowledge because he is/was a lich). There's no actual overlap here. If you only look at the last three parts of Cuthbert's portfolio, it does look like Heironeous'. Which is why you have to look at Cuthbert's [I]entire [/I]portfolio, which very clearly makes the two gods very different. Cuthbert is not a knight in shining armor. If anything, he's the old guy who tells you important info and then smacks you over the head with his cudgel when you don't listen to him. [/QUOTE]
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