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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8408072" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>I know. It says the same about Slaad Lords too. I'm not sure what your point is.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: In the original MM, Tiamat is a powerful unique dragon who "rules the first plane of the Nine Hells where she spawns all of evil dragonkind" (p 32).</p><p></p><p>Then in the original DDG we are told to treat her as a lesser god who "very rarely has human worshippers", like (inter alia) the archdevils. Also, in the entry on the Babylonian god Marduk we are told "His battles with Tiamat are legendary" (p 24). Marduk is a greater god with 350 hp and is a 19th level fighter, 16th level MU and 15th level bard.</p><p></p><p>In the 3E MotP Tiamat is once again presented as a powerful unique dragon. Then in Bastion of Broken Souls she has a human cleric and is described as a deity. In the 3E DDG she is a deity.</p><p></p><p>In 4e default cosmology, she is a god.</p><p></p><p>This all drives home the point that the D&D texts have not, historically, marked any clear contrast between "archfiends" and evil gods.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8408072, member: 42582"] I know. It says the same about Slaad Lords too. I'm not sure what your point is. EDIT: In the original MM, Tiamat is a powerful unique dragon who "rules the first plane of the Nine Hells where she spawns all of evil dragonkind" (p 32). Then in the original DDG we are told to treat her as a lesser god who "very rarely has human worshippers", like (inter alia) the archdevils. Also, in the entry on the Babylonian god Marduk we are told "His battles with Tiamat are legendary" (p 24). Marduk is a greater god with 350 hp and is a 19th level fighter, 16th level MU and 15th level bard. In the 3E MotP Tiamat is once again presented as a powerful unique dragon. Then in Bastion of Broken Souls she has a human cleric and is described as a deity. In the 3E DDG she is a deity. In 4e default cosmology, she is a god. This all drives home the point that the D&D texts have not, historically, marked any clear contrast between "archfiends" and evil gods. [/QUOTE]
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