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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 8409507" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>I can kinda see the redundancy of evil gods and demons and devils. Especially if the demons and devils can operate independently of any gods. </p><p>If Gods are supposed to be more powerful ,and we have evil gods, it seems teh best use for demons and devils would be as as the evil answer to angels. Which my sense of symmetry now demands to be split into two different classes, too. Unless maybe the existence of two different "evil angel types" is to highlight that evil might be powerful, but tends to vicious infighting as well.</p><p></p><p>I also like the idea of a pantheon without evil gods, especially from the perspective of "sin". If you have a god of murder, you're clearly not sinning against that god's commandments if you murder someone, and if there is a god of tyranny, a nice benevolent ruler would be a sinner that will go to hell... That doesn't seem right. </p><p></p><p>I also like the idea of god needing faith to gain power. I am too much of a Terry Prattchett fan to not like that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p>Maybe then the unique thing about gods is that with their connection to the faithful, they can extract magical energy from the universe (Astral Sea, or whatever) that otherwise would be inaccessiable. Most of the faith they use to directly gain power or sustenance for themselves, but they channel some back to very faithful people - Clerics - to help them gain more believers.</p><p></p><p>Personally I liked the 4E system of primordials, demons, devils and gods. Though I really found it more difficult to deal with Primal spirits. They have so much overlap with (arch)feys and gods that I found it a bit confusing, and I don't like how Primordial and Primal are so similar words, either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 8409507, member: 710"] I can kinda see the redundancy of evil gods and demons and devils. Especially if the demons and devils can operate independently of any gods. If Gods are supposed to be more powerful ,and we have evil gods, it seems teh best use for demons and devils would be as as the evil answer to angels. Which my sense of symmetry now demands to be split into two different classes, too. Unless maybe the existence of two different "evil angel types" is to highlight that evil might be powerful, but tends to vicious infighting as well. I also like the idea of a pantheon without evil gods, especially from the perspective of "sin". If you have a god of murder, you're clearly not sinning against that god's commandments if you murder someone, and if there is a god of tyranny, a nice benevolent ruler would be a sinner that will go to hell... That doesn't seem right. I also like the idea of god needing faith to gain power. I am too much of a Terry Prattchett fan to not like that. :) Maybe then the unique thing about gods is that with their connection to the faithful, they can extract magical energy from the universe (Astral Sea, or whatever) that otherwise would be inaccessiable. Most of the faith they use to directly gain power or sustenance for themselves, but they channel some back to very faithful people - Clerics - to help them gain more believers. Personally I liked the 4E system of primordials, demons, devils and gods. Though I really found it more difficult to deal with Primal spirits. They have so much overlap with (arch)feys and gods that I found it a bit confusing, and I don't like how Primordial and Primal are so similar words, either. [/QUOTE]
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