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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8410839" data-attributes="member: 6915329">So I can't help but notice that you didn't respond to the quote from the DMG saying fiends can have clerics.So, whatever else 5e has said, the DMG has spoken. Archfiends can have clerics. Now, if you want to make a houserule saying that they can't grant higher-level spells, or can have fewer clerics than true gods, or something else like that, fine. But they can officially have clerics. This does not mean they are redundant with evil gods however. They still have a different role in the multiverse.They use enough from the classes that they can be considered to be that class. And some of them specifically say they are members of the class. Acolytes are called junior clergy--clergy, like cleric. Veterans are professional fighters. There's a druid NPC statblock. They aren't built using PC rules, but they are close enough that they can be considered part of the class. Look, a necklace of prayer beads, among many other magic items requires attunement by a cleric. Are you actually saying that no NPC could ever attune to it? That PCs are literally the only people who can attune to items that have class-based restrictions?Because if so, that's ridiculous. Right now, going through a list of adventure NPCs, I find Arkhan the Cruel, from Avernus, described as a champion of Tiamat, who wields a named battleaxe, Fane Eater, that requires attunement by an evil cleric or paladin. He has no class-based spellcasting, but he has a paladin-like Aura. Avarice from Rime of the Frostmaiden has wizard spells and wields a staff of frost (darnit, we were literally 2 hit points away from killing her, too), which requires attunement by a wizard. Dragonbait in Tomb of Anhiliation has a holy avenger longsword, which requires attunement by a paladin.At this point I decided to stop, because whether or not you think that the NPCs with class abilities are a member of that class, it's clear the game has decided they are class-based enough to be allowed to attune to magic items. You are wrong on this matter.</blockquote>

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