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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8410873" data-attributes="member: 42582">That's not correct. The encounter with Lolth in D3 happens, by default, in room 5 of the Dungeon Level of the Great Fane of Lolth.You keep making assertions about these early works that are just false, in order (it seems) to shore up a claim that is likewise false, namely, that in these early works some sort of systematic distinction was being drawn between gods and (inter alia) demon lords. It just wasn't!As well as the D-series, which is full of clerics with a full range of spells up to the 6th level (because none of them is above 14th level), there is T1 with Lareth the Beautiful.And the clerics of Zuggtmoy in T1-4. (Also &quot;approved&quot; by Gygax. I don't know exactly what role Gygax was playing, but I don't know of any evidence that he was &quot;approving&quot; based on a detailed consideration of how these modules treated the worshippers of demon lords.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8410873, member: 42582"] That's not correct. The encounter with Lolth in D3 happens, by default, in room 5 of the Dungeon Level of the Great Fane of Lolth. You keep making assertions about these early works that are just false, in order (it seems) to shore up a claim that is likewise false, namely, that in these early works some sort of systematic distinction was being drawn between gods and (inter alia) demon lords. It just wasn't! As well as the D-series, which is full of clerics with a full range of spells up to the 6th level (because none of them is above 14th level), there is T1 with Lareth the Beautiful. And the clerics of Zuggtmoy in T1-4. (Also "approved" by Gygax. I don't know exactly what role Gygax was playing, but I don't know of any evidence that he was "approving" based on a detailed consideration of how these modules treated the worshippers of demon lords. [/QUOTE]

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