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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8411222" data-attributes="member: 6855114">So, when it suites you, the rule of fiends not being able to cast spells as they are not gods is debunked by the DDG, but when it does not you forget the DDG in a nice closet? Either you use it or you do not. If you use only the DMG, archdevils are not gods but can serve as conduit for clerics. If you use the optional rule of the DDG, then you can use the option of making some of them lesser gods (and at this point, why not making them all lesser gods...) But you also must use the non optional rule of divine ranks...which makes it so that 5th level spells require at least a demigod to be granted.The fact that Lolth was given divine ranks in the adventures just made her a goddess as it always should have been. It was the only for the game to explain how dark elves could cast 5th level spells and higher.  Later in the UA, they even had unlimited advancement in cleric if they were female... And normal elves were still limited to what? 7th level (10th with 18 wisdom if I recall correctly). It was a necessity to keep Dark elves powerful. They even were more powerful wizard than Grey elves (supposedly the best wizards of the elven race) reaching higher level with the same intelligence. This is why I usually limit myself to core books. As time goes on in any edition of D&D, inconsistencies from the core book appears more and more up to a point where a new edition is requires to start the cycle over again. And consistency is not even there from edition to edition...</blockquote>

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