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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8412265" data-attributes="member: 42582">Read the MM. They are said to be devil-worshippers. Sekolah is not invented until DDG, as best I know. Sahuagin are published in Blackmoor but in that version are not devil-worshippers. That seems to be original to the MM, which is 1977.I don't want to speak too harshly, but you seem very careless with publication dates, and with which works have which content. Which makes your claims about that content less credible than it might otherwise be.To the best of my knowledge, this is also invented in DDG. It is not mentioned in the MM.Again, that claim that only gods can give 5th level spells is something that you have made up. It is not stated in the DMG. Nor in DDG. [USER=2209]@Voadam[/USER] and I have posted the relevant rules text upthread. (DDG states that demigods have no minions to grant clerics 3rd to 5th level spells, and must do it themselves; and that clerics of demigods therefore cannot have 6th or 7th level spells. You seem to have transmuted this into a rule that only gods can grant 5th level spells.)I am 90% confident that the rules about gods and spell levels in DDG were not playtested. They were just made up!Likewise, as I have posted upthread but you seem to have ignored, the rules about how clerics get spells changed between the PHB and the DMG: the PHB says 1st to 4th from prayer and meditation, and 5th to 7th from the god directly. Why did Gygax change things? Who knows! But not because of playtesting. Perhaps he wanted to give minions a role. Perhaps he thought it made less sense to make 5th level spells so precarious to acquire. Or something else.I don't need reminding that it is 2nd ed AD&D. I've made that point every time I've mentioned it. that drives home my sense that you are not reading my posts very carefully.And what are you saying it is an exception to? There is no other published example of a Hierarch that I'm aware of.It is different from a rule that has no existence outside of the DDG, and that there's no particular reason to think anyone ever implemented.</blockquote>

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