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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8413974" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>First of all, I don't know if that is actually true in DnD. Secondly, you are just assuming they didn't decide to worship him. Thirdly, you are ignoring the history of the character. </p><p></p><p>He began conquering in 479. He disappeared in 505, so about 25 years of his direct influence. That's a full generation. But, in 505 this happened "<em>Many of the orcs, clans that had served him for years, as well as some of his human followers claimed he has ascended to full godhood, beginning to worship him, and actually able to perform cleric spells based on their worship.</em>" And this went on until he was freed in 570, another 65 years later, by a group including Lord Robiliar who was the PC of Rob Kuntz. </p><p></p><p>So, sure, maybe in the first three or five years of him demanding worship not everyone was on board, but by the point in time most campaigns occurred (after 570) he had been being worshiped as a full god for at least 65 years. Plenty of time for the conquered to die of old age and their grandchildren to be indoctrinated.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh sure, some of those 18 gods are widely worshiped. But Uthgar isn't. He is solely worshiped by the Uthgardt, they took their name from him, a mortal ascended to godhood, and under the heading of his followers, they are the only ones mentioned. </p><p></p><p>So, we have an entire race of people worshiping a single being, and that isn't enough to make a god. But we have some human tribes worshiping one guy amongst a selection of gods, and that is plenty. Does this honestly and truly make sense to you?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8413974, member: 6801228"] First of all, I don't know if that is actually true in DnD. Secondly, you are just assuming they didn't decide to worship him. Thirdly, you are ignoring the history of the character. He began conquering in 479. He disappeared in 505, so about 25 years of his direct influence. That's a full generation. But, in 505 this happened "[I]Many of the orcs, clans that had served him for years, as well as some of his human followers claimed he has ascended to full godhood, beginning to worship him, and actually able to perform cleric spells based on their worship.[/I]" And this went on until he was freed in 570, another 65 years later, by a group including Lord Robiliar who was the PC of Rob Kuntz. So, sure, maybe in the first three or five years of him demanding worship not everyone was on board, but by the point in time most campaigns occurred (after 570) he had been being worshiped as a full god for at least 65 years. Plenty of time for the conquered to die of old age and their grandchildren to be indoctrinated. Oh sure, some of those 18 gods are widely worshiped. But Uthgar isn't. He is solely worshiped by the Uthgardt, they took their name from him, a mortal ascended to godhood, and under the heading of his followers, they are the only ones mentioned. So, we have an entire race of people worshiping a single being, and that isn't enough to make a god. But we have some human tribes worshiping one guy amongst a selection of gods, and that is plenty. Does this honestly and truly make sense to you? [/QUOTE]
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