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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8414342" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I don't think it would be useful to relitigate how different the idea of faith and belief would be in a world where you actively know the gods exist and can talk to them. </p><p></p><p>Suffice to say that the standard for belief and worship is likely lower than you think, and it isn't that hard to set up a cult of personality.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, wait. Iuz had multiple tribes of vast amounts of people (because he is a god) but his massive country where he is the state religion and has been for nearly 100 years, doesn't have a lot of people worshiping him. </p><p></p><p>At this point I think you are just being contrarian because you can, but I'll try one last little thing here. You may or may not have heard about the Unification Church, it's a cult with about 2 million members who have a lot of beliefs, but one of those is definitely that the two leaders Sun Myung Moon and Hak Ja Han are divine in some manner. They started around 1960 and are still going strong in 2020. That's about 60 years, with only propaganda while within other countries. </p><p></p><p>Iuz has had 90 years as the absolute ruler of a state dedicated to him. I think he probably got the majority of them to follow him as a religion. It really is not as hard as you seem to think it is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, yeenoghu can't be a god because if he was a god he'd be worshiped by a lot of people, and there can't be a lot of gnolls because if there were then Yeenoghu would be a god, and he isn't a god because he isn't worshiped by a lot of people. </p><p></p><p>You are arguing a circle. How about this, find some other reason to think there aren't a lot of gnolls other than the the fact that Yeengohu, a being who can hear and answer their prayers and takes their souls when they die, isn't listed as a god. </p><p></p><p>Because from where I'm sitting, he checks every single box to make him a god, but he is famously a Demon Lord and he still lives in the Abyss, so he is listed as a Demon Lord.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, exactly. If a fraction of a fraction of a race is enough to count for godhood, why aren't entire races enough? </p><p></p><p>Uthgar and his companion gods (the various animal totems are listed as gods too) are supported by a single segment of humanity. Yet we have entire races worshiping Demon Lords and somehow that isn't enough people because reasons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8414342, member: 6801228"] I don't think it would be useful to relitigate how different the idea of faith and belief would be in a world where you actively know the gods exist and can talk to them. Suffice to say that the standard for belief and worship is likely lower than you think, and it isn't that hard to set up a cult of personality. So, wait. Iuz had multiple tribes of vast amounts of people (because he is a god) but his massive country where he is the state religion and has been for nearly 100 years, doesn't have a lot of people worshiping him. At this point I think you are just being contrarian because you can, but I'll try one last little thing here. You may or may not have heard about the Unification Church, it's a cult with about 2 million members who have a lot of beliefs, but one of those is definitely that the two leaders Sun Myung Moon and Hak Ja Han are divine in some manner. They started around 1960 and are still going strong in 2020. That's about 60 years, with only propaganda while within other countries. Iuz has had 90 years as the absolute ruler of a state dedicated to him. I think he probably got the majority of them to follow him as a religion. It really is not as hard as you seem to think it is. So, yeenoghu can't be a god because if he was a god he'd be worshiped by a lot of people, and there can't be a lot of gnolls because if there were then Yeenoghu would be a god, and he isn't a god because he isn't worshiped by a lot of people. You are arguing a circle. How about this, find some other reason to think there aren't a lot of gnolls other than the the fact that Yeengohu, a being who can hear and answer their prayers and takes their souls when they die, isn't listed as a god. Because from where I'm sitting, he checks every single box to make him a god, but he is famously a Demon Lord and he still lives in the Abyss, so he is listed as a Demon Lord. Again, exactly. If a fraction of a fraction of a race is enough to count for godhood, why aren't entire races enough? Uthgar and his companion gods (the various animal totems are listed as gods too) are supported by a single segment of humanity. Yet we have entire races worshiping Demon Lords and somehow that isn't enough people because reasons. [/QUOTE]
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