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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8414378" data-attributes="member: 23751">Belief in D&D =/= just knowing they exist.Except that D&D writings throughout the years say that no, it's not lower than I think.  If your standard of "just knowing they exist and can talk to them" was sufficient, no god could die from lack of belief.  They do die from lack of worshippers, though, even though your much lower standard of belief is still present.Nope.  He's a Demigod, so apparently being a right evil bastard causes people to not actually like you.  As in they are not true worshippers. Cool.  Are they half-demon bastards who murder people and terrorize them?  I'm going to go with no, they aren't.  If they were, they'd have a few hundred followers at best.It's not a circle at all.  That's just your misrepresentation of what I said.  What I said was...1. Gods get their power from worshippers.2. Yeenoghu being barely a god these days shows that he does not have a lot of worshippers.  End of line, not circle. Are you seriously arguing that a fraction of a race, say 5% of a billion, is less than an entire 100k?Humanity in most settings, such as Toril, is highly populous.  There are more of them than the other races, so a fraction of humanity will often be more than entire race X.That is true.  There are reasons, such as entire races being less numerous than a fraction of humanity, for it not to be enough.  I think you finally get it!</blockquote>