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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8417328" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Well, there aren’t any. At least none I am aware of. They’ve maybe published a dozen clerics across all of 5e adventures? And most of them you would tell me aren’t clerics because their statblocks don’t have all the clerical abilities, which drops that to like… zero cleric NPCs published for the entire edition.And only one adventure featured Yeenoghu at all, and that was the Out of the Abyss, which featured him directly, and involved zero of his followers at all.Do we have literally any reason to believe that a statblock meant for someone worshiping a demon lord doesn’t get included when discussing people who worship a demon Lord? This is like literally asking for an official document saying that Kings have knights in their service, it is heavily implied by the entire concept of knighthood.Are you required to have them? No. Is there any reason to assume that they don’t exist? No. Because the designers didn’t think they’d need to list which Demon Lords are worshiped by cultists, and instead just said “cultists worship demon Lords, here are the weak cultist commoners and their cult leaders”Right, so he was weaker than Iuz and still worshiped as a god. Oh, wait, you think summoning Demons somehow means that people won’t worship him? There is zero reason to believe that, because many Evil Gods are reported to have various fiends in their service. This is just par for the course. ESPECIALLY, since demonic worship is a thing we know exists in DnD.Just because you wouldn’t worship a guy summoning demons doesn’t mean that the people of the Empire won’t.You should do research into them. Some of them had “small” cults. But others had very, very large cults. It is easier to indoctrinate people than you seem to think. Scarily easy.Sure, but that doesn’t mean that they didn’t miss things. In fact, SCG is often brought up as a departure from 5e design. So, it is worth noting.You do realize that the wiki’s are pulled from official sources, right? And generally kept updated to the current edition.But, hey, you looked at a nearly 20 year old book for Third edition, so clearly that shows how 5e has changed things, right? Can you find any reference in 5e that has listed them as demigods instead of Lesser Gods? I can’t. The Sword Coast guide is the most definitive take on these beings, and none of them are referred to as Demigods.Additionally, since The Red Knight and the others can hear and answer prayers, they aren’t Demigods according to the 5e DMG. That fact makes them Lesser deities, which is a 5e proof that they have been raised in power. Or at least that the ranks have been shuffled. So, why do you keep ignoring this fact? I’ve brought it up over a dozen times and you never want to acknowledge that the prayer rule has changed the structure of how the gods are seen in 5e.</blockquote>

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