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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8417453" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I have not been forgetting it. I am aware that in Greyhawk, in one edition, they said that for some unknown reason Erythnul is the granter of the spells that are asked from Yeenoghu. That doesn't explain things in any setting where Erythnul doesn't exist. Which is anywhere except Greyhawk.The article I was reading was a summary of the original, that I believe I linked, and that called her a cleric. Repeatedly. I did not have the original, as I did not have her statblock (remember, I said I wasn't sure if this came out in 5e or not) I will not she has a massive Religion skill, and is listed as a Leader/Controller which I believe was the role given to 4e clerics. It isn't quite "has something that didn't exist in that edition) but it is some good evidence. If she had been a paladin or a warlock, she would be a striker. Which she is not.Well, since I'm going to be ignored I guess I no longer need to constantly defend myself. I mean, I've addressed most of these complaints repeatedly. Like how I didn't say that gods can't do the thing, but that the way you proposed they would do it doesn't make sense to me. Sort of like saying you are going to paint a house with a semi-truck. I'm sure there is a way to do it, but just making the statement isn't going to get people to agree with you without question, they are going to ask "how". But, I suppose I'm not allowed to do that. After saying something is possible I must absolutely accept any route to achieve that thing, no matter how off it sounds. However, again, you'll be ignoring me so I don't see any point in spending even more time defending myself, which is all I have done with you from the start. I will take a moment though to address that last part though. Because, I believe you are right about how Catholicism works.  However, just because Catholicism works that way, doesn't mean DnD works that way. DnD has a concept of Exarchs. Exarchs act as intermediaries for Greater Gods, interceding on the behalf of mortals. Beings like The Red Knight are Exarchs. They also are usually lesser gods in their own right, empowered by the worship sent there way, even the worship it seems of them interceding on behalf of a Greater God. So, yes, if DnD was Catholicism, then it would work the way you say. However, it isn't, and there are examples of it working a completely different way. Sorry I didn't provide textual links to various books. I'm trying to finish catching up to this thread before having to cook dinner, and I just don't have the time to find page numbers to support things that I'm pretty sure are right.</blockquote>

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