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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8417487" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Sure, we don't have scientific peer-reviewed evidence, or someone writing down Yeenoghu's quarterly "god-state" report. But we do have quite of bit of evidence, as I keep pointing out.Really? It isn't required to have a magical cult leader, so we can't assume that anywhere in reality Yeenoghu has a magical cult leader? Well, it isn't required to have a magical cleric to have a church, so we can't assume that those exist either. You are literally dismissing evidence just because you don't like it.Actually they were, "King" comes from a Germanic word. Non-European rulers had other titles in their own languages. Also, "Knight" came from a Germanic word as well, same etymology. Other nobility who served other types of courts in a similar capacity had other titles, in their own languages. I mean, since we shouldn't assume things without evidence, assuming other languages are identical to our own seems pretty egregious.You have literally no proof. This is wild assumptions based on your own biases.Go look up discussions of the Banneret and the Tiger Barbarian and the Long Death Monk. The sentiment comes up.Which if I was a professional I'd go and buy the linked sources and confirm them to be accurate. I didn't realize I was getting paid for my research into this topic though, so as soon as my first paycheck goes through, I'll tighten up my research. However, many professors and teachers who do refuse to allow wiki's WILL allow unsourced websites from fifteen years ago that have no listed author. So, since the DnD wiki's frequently heavily quote the source material, and cite it repeatedly, I'm going to continue going with them as a reliable source.And so how is that supposed to prove that 5e didn't change things?So, you want to counter the evidence of beings like the Red Knight, who were given cleric domains indicating that they provide cleric spells, and whose role is to answer prayers for larger Greater Deities, something that a demigod cannot do and that only a Lesser Deity can do according to the books... by arguing that not everyone in a religion can do magic? So, if she doesn't grant spells, why does she have a domain? Why is her role answering prayers if she literally cannot do that if you are correct? And why should I take the statement of "not every priest is magical" to somehow counteract this evidence? Because despite you going on about how we can't know... since they grant spells and answers prayers, we DO know.</blockquote>

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