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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8418534" data-attributes="member: 23751">Since you like wikis so much.&nbsp; You can follow the Demogorgon link to the second quote.&quot;Ever hungry for more power, Orcus wanted to be recognized as &quot;Prince of Demons&quot;, a title held by <a href="https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Demogorgon" target="_blank">Demogorgon</a> and coveted also by Graz'zt. As a result, he became the arch-enemy of both demon lords. In time, Orcus also achieved true godhood.&quot;&quot;Demogorgon was a powerful demon lord and lesser deity from the Abyss&quot;[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Orcus[/URL]Um, yes I have.&nbsp; I guess I have to quote it for you again.&nbsp; &quot;Choose a god, a pantheon of gods, or some other quasi-divine being from among those listed in appendix B...&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; It does not limit you to Eberron, but nice try.No. Prayers in the context of clerics are divine spells. Omens are just things sent by the Demon Lord.&nbsp; He could send a black crow to hit a tree, and then the gnolls would interpret that. What part of magical power = divine clerics do you not understand.&nbsp; Warlocks get power from Demon Lords all the time.&nbsp; That doesn't make a Demon Lord a god that can hear and grant prayer spells.I don't have to disprove clerics of Demon Lords.&nbsp; YOU have to prove it, since it was your claim.&nbsp; All I did was show how your &quot;worshippers&quot; and &quot;priests&quot; passages can be explained by completely non-magical means.&nbsp; Now you have to prove that what I've shown isn't true and that they really do grant clerical spells, and you have to show it explicitly. Yes.&nbsp; Yes she can do that as a demigod.&nbsp; There is no need for her to grant spells.&nbsp; All she needs to do is supervise the portfolios she has been put in charge of.&nbsp; That's the point of exarchs.&nbsp; Virtually all of them were Demigods or weaker.&nbsp; They're lower management like Solars.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8418534, member: 23751"] Since you like wikis so much. You can follow the Demogorgon link to the second quote. "Ever hungry for more power, Orcus wanted to be recognized as "Prince of Demons", a title held by [URL='https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Demogorgon']Demogorgon[/URL] and coveted also by Graz'zt. As a result, he became the arch-enemy of both demon lords. In time, [B]Orcus also achieved true godhood[/B]." "Demogorgon was a powerful demon lord and [B]lesser deity[/B] from the Abyss" [URL unfurl="true"]https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Orcus[/URL] Um, yes I have. I guess I have to quote it for you again. "Choose a god, a pantheon of gods, or some other quasi-divine being from among those listed in appendix B..." It does not limit you to Eberron, but nice try. No. Prayers in the context of clerics are divine spells. Omens are just things sent by the Demon Lord. He could send a black crow to hit a tree, and then the gnolls would interpret that. What part of magical power = divine clerics do you not understand. Warlocks get power from Demon Lords all the time. That doesn't make a Demon Lord a god that can hear and grant prayer spells. I don't have to disprove clerics of Demon Lords. YOU have to prove it, since it was your claim. All I did was show how your "worshippers" and "priests" passages can be explained by completely non-magical means. Now you have to prove that what I've shown isn't true and that they really do grant clerical spells, and you have to show it explicitly. Yes. Yes she can do that as a demigod. There is no need for her to grant spells. All she needs to do is supervise the portfolios she has been put in charge of. That's the point of exarchs. Virtually all of them were Demigods or weaker. They're lower management like Solars. [/QUOTE]

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