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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8419509" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>So, going back to my original list, which had four groups is somehow me being "utterly wrong", so instead I should have, what? Ignored my original list because you wanted to say that it was faster to say five words? </p><p></p><p>Also, "elven ancestors" is inaccurate. Because that would make it sound like it applies to any elven ancestors, which is doesn't, as most elven cultures don't do ancestor worship, so even if you did the bare minimum it would be: "or choose The Court of the Undying or The Spirits of the Past..." which is 49 characters. </p><p></p><p>And the Undying Court is Quasi-Divine, which is fairly obvious if instead of looking at the CR of a single member of the Court you look at how the Court as a whole acts.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Or, they will see the beings not listed "gods" and think they were those. Or, they won't even read the acolyte that closely and worry about it. </p><p></p><p>Also, let's not start adding text it tells players they can look for "quasi-divine beings" not "quasi-divine beings (demigods)"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So if they aren't demigods, Titans or vestiges... maybe they aren't Quasi-Divine and instead are Divine? I mean, why are you so convinced that 5e didn't change things, and that instead they MUST be breaking their own rules to force things into categories that are "close enough" while not being what they defined those categories as?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But the English language does. And it is called "Prayer". </p><p></p><p>See, you are trying to twist this into some PC doing a thing at the table and the DM deciding to do it. But that isn't required for what I said. It could be a backstory element. The point is that you would call it "prayer".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, he has to give her the ability to grant spells, because 5e days that a demigod can't do that. Yes, I know demigods of older editions could, but in 5e they can't. It says so directly. </p><p></p><p>And the rest of the stuff you have listed is to have a "god" who is worshiped on the mortal plane as... a glorified Deva. But sure, her only role is to fly down to the material wold to deliver messages that Tempus wants people to realize are important. That's why people pray to her as the Lady of Strategy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because he has always been portrayed as being worshiped by his Empire. Which is big. And other posters have provided more information.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8419509, member: 6801228"] So, going back to my original list, which had four groups is somehow me being "utterly wrong", so instead I should have, what? Ignored my original list because you wanted to say that it was faster to say five words? Also, "elven ancestors" is inaccurate. Because that would make it sound like it applies to any elven ancestors, which is doesn't, as most elven cultures don't do ancestor worship, so even if you did the bare minimum it would be: "or choose The Court of the Undying or The Spirits of the Past..." which is 49 characters. And the Undying Court is Quasi-Divine, which is fairly obvious if instead of looking at the CR of a single member of the Court you look at how the Court as a whole acts. Or, they will see the beings not listed "gods" and think they were those. Or, they won't even read the acolyte that closely and worry about it. Also, let's not start adding text it tells players they can look for "quasi-divine beings" not "quasi-divine beings (demigods)" So if they aren't demigods, Titans or vestiges... maybe they aren't Quasi-Divine and instead are Divine? I mean, why are you so convinced that 5e didn't change things, and that instead they MUST be breaking their own rules to force things into categories that are "close enough" while not being what they defined those categories as? But the English language does. And it is called "Prayer". See, you are trying to twist this into some PC doing a thing at the table and the DM deciding to do it. But that isn't required for what I said. It could be a backstory element. The point is that you would call it "prayer". So, he has to give her the ability to grant spells, because 5e days that a demigod can't do that. Yes, I know demigods of older editions could, but in 5e they can't. It says so directly. And the rest of the stuff you have listed is to have a "god" who is worshiped on the mortal plane as... a glorified Deva. But sure, her only role is to fly down to the material wold to deliver messages that Tempus wants people to realize are important. That's why people pray to her as the Lady of Strategy. Because he has always been portrayed as being worshiped by his Empire. Which is big. And other posters have provided more information. [/QUOTE]
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