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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8428826" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>If there is only one domain, and these are inextricably linked to the worship of different sects and not, you know, Cleric Subclasses like they really are... then yeah. How can all these gods and goddesses with single domains work the way you are INSISTING it works. </p><p></p><p>The real answer is, they don't. The domains are cleric subclasses. The rest of it is RP that is not directly tied to picking a Domain.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, they could. And so an acolyte deciding how to worship Tempus doesn't pick a domain for their character. But they can worship an Aspect of Tempus and be part of a sect. The two concepts are not connected. Domains are cleric subclasses, that is it. You don't pick a cleric subclass unless you are a cleric. If you want to RP different parts of a religion, you do that, which has nothing to do with picking a Domain.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh no, they gave an example of a thing. Well, those were real titles of Apollo, from IRL. So, let me try this:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Aphrodite Paphian is a version of Aphrodite emphasizing her birth from the Sea and connection to the primal elements. Sounds like a Tempest Domain to me. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Aphrodite Eleemon is her merciful aspect, well, that would tie nicely into the Life Domain</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Aphrodite en kopois is Aphrodite of the Gardens, showing her dominion over plant life, so that's the Nature Domain, right?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Aphrodite Tymborychos is Aphrodite the Gravedigger, could call that the Grave domain perhaps?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Aphrodite Androphonos is Aphrodite the Killer of Men, and she is well documented as a War Goddess in Sparta and Laconia</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Venus Genetrix was Aphrodite as the Mother of the Roman Nation, that sounds like you could make her an Order Domain </li> </ul><p>Man, I'm going to have to stop. There are just so many of these. She was an incredibly famous goddess after all. But, this was all pulled from Googling the real Aphrodite. If your theory holds true, then she should have domains in DnD including: Tempest, War, Order, Grave/Death, Life, Nature, and I'll even through in Peace since it was originally Love. </p><p></p><p>What does she actually get? Light. Which, in a twisted way you can see, because Light is associated with the sun, and the sun is hot so light also gets fire, and fire is passion so you can string it along to connect to what Aphrodite is ACTUALLY about. And this is something they at least did consistently. Every deity associated with love and beauty gets light and/or life... except Life is certainly the more common one. </p><p></p><p>So, yeah, if we take an equivalent example, the majority of Deities should have far, far more domains. Especially if they were ACTUALLY meant to be sects and demonstrate different ways people worshiped the gods. But they don't, because they weren't. Set is famously the Protector of the Sun, he was worshiped in that manner. There is no mention of that aspect of his worship in his domains. Moradin is a war god as the cheif of the Dwarves, same with Corellon. The domains are at best a simplified list of starting points. They aren't neccessary to make sects, because they don't correspond in anyway to the sects that we can see in and out of the game. Domains are cleric subclasses. That's it. They are associated with the old idea of Portfolios, but that's because Portfolios... were specializations for Clerics as well. A portfolio in 3.5 was a collection of Domains, that the cleric could then choose to get extra spells and extra powers. Even clerics without a deity picked two domains. </p><p></p><p>That's all they have ever been. Powers for clerics. They are associated with the deity loosely, because you don't want a deity of Night to be associated with the Sun, but they were never needed for RP. The RP could exist separate, without caring about the Domains, because the Domains are the mechanical crunch.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8428826, member: 6801228"] If there is only one domain, and these are inextricably linked to the worship of different sects and not, you know, Cleric Subclasses like they really are... then yeah. How can all these gods and goddesses with single domains work the way you are INSISTING it works. The real answer is, they don't. The domains are cleric subclasses. The rest of it is RP that is not directly tied to picking a Domain. Sure, they could. And so an acolyte deciding how to worship Tempus doesn't pick a domain for their character. But they can worship an Aspect of Tempus and be part of a sect. The two concepts are not connected. Domains are cleric subclasses, that is it. You don't pick a cleric subclass unless you are a cleric. If you want to RP different parts of a religion, you do that, which has nothing to do with picking a Domain. Oh no, they gave an example of a thing. Well, those were real titles of Apollo, from IRL. So, let me try this: [LIST] [*]Aphrodite Paphian is a version of Aphrodite emphasizing her birth from the Sea and connection to the primal elements. Sounds like a Tempest Domain to me. [*]Aphrodite Eleemon is her merciful aspect, well, that would tie nicely into the Life Domain [*]Aphrodite en kopois is Aphrodite of the Gardens, showing her dominion over plant life, so that's the Nature Domain, right? [*]Aphrodite Tymborychos is Aphrodite the Gravedigger, could call that the Grave domain perhaps? [*]Aphrodite Androphonos is Aphrodite the Killer of Men, and she is well documented as a War Goddess in Sparta and Laconia [*]Venus Genetrix was Aphrodite as the Mother of the Roman Nation, that sounds like you could make her an Order Domain [/LIST] Man, I'm going to have to stop. There are just so many of these. She was an incredibly famous goddess after all. But, this was all pulled from Googling the real Aphrodite. If your theory holds true, then she should have domains in DnD including: Tempest, War, Order, Grave/Death, Life, Nature, and I'll even through in Peace since it was originally Love. What does she actually get? Light. Which, in a twisted way you can see, because Light is associated with the sun, and the sun is hot so light also gets fire, and fire is passion so you can string it along to connect to what Aphrodite is ACTUALLY about. And this is something they at least did consistently. Every deity associated with love and beauty gets light and/or life... except Life is certainly the more common one. So, yeah, if we take an equivalent example, the majority of Deities should have far, far more domains. Especially if they were ACTUALLY meant to be sects and demonstrate different ways people worshiped the gods. But they don't, because they weren't. Set is famously the Protector of the Sun, he was worshiped in that manner. There is no mention of that aspect of his worship in his domains. Moradin is a war god as the cheif of the Dwarves, same with Corellon. The domains are at best a simplified list of starting points. They aren't neccessary to make sects, because they don't correspond in anyway to the sects that we can see in and out of the game. Domains are cleric subclasses. That's it. They are associated with the old idea of Portfolios, but that's because Portfolios... were specializations for Clerics as well. A portfolio in 3.5 was a collection of Domains, that the cleric could then choose to get extra spells and extra powers. Even clerics without a deity picked two domains. That's all they have ever been. Powers for clerics. They are associated with the deity loosely, because you don't want a deity of Night to be associated with the Sun, but they were never needed for RP. The RP could exist separate, without caring about the Domains, because the Domains are the mechanical crunch. [/QUOTE]
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