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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8433382" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Ah, the classic "you got peanut butter in my jelly. You got jelly in my peanut butter" defense.I would agree with you that Helm is a human god de facto, but he is not written expressly as a human god. In fact he is considered a "general" god, and not a specifically human god. This is something that irritated me, as you never have Human gods you have "general gods that just happen to be majority human worship" This doesn't change.. literally anything about my point though.Well, you are wrong. So... your insistance on repeating yourself is irrelevant. The game tells us that Helm is supposed to be a general deity. They also tell us that gods of vigilance and watchfulness have access to the Twilight Domain. Nowhere does it say "only races without darkvision have access to the Twilight domain" It also doesn't address the lack of twilight domain for Araleth Letheranil - Elf God of Stars. Do star gods not get the Twilight Domain if their people have Darkvision? Or, what about the gods of community. The Twilight Domain has a lot of flavor about protection and sanctuary, which is why the community gods like Boldrei have access. Boldrei, who's followers include races with Darkvision. So, why don't other community gods like Mya the Dwarven Goddess of Clan and Family have access to Twilight Domain? You've latched onto the Vigilance aspect, but it wasn't the only aspect.You are the one claiming that we are limited to only these choices, why don't you have an answer for why those choices aren't consistent?We've quoted to you repeatedly as well. Sections of Clerics of Philosophies, how the they literally state "the cleric chooses the domain, not the god". Yet you seem fine ignoring all of that. Now you are even trying to claim that player's can't pick domains not in the PHB without explicit permission? Since when has it been that you need explicit permission to use an officially printed subclass? Any sort of "well the DM might ban them" ALSO applies to the PHB, so that isn't an answer.But the powers of the knowledge domain don't represent the power of the secrets I have learned. So, why can't I use the subclass that most accurately represents my character?</blockquote>

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