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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8433396" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I don't care if everyone will have them. They are meant to illustrate the point. Some gods that were more iconic got listed. They obviously weren't going to list every god. Instead, they expected people to add the domains where appropriate. </p><p></p><p>This clearly indicates that the listed domains for the gods are NOT exhaustive. Adding to that list is expected.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But if your only argument against something is "The DM might not allow it" then that argument can be applied to everything and anything. "I would learn the fireball spell at level 5 as a wizard" "Well, the DM might not allow you to do that. It is their prerogative to override the game" </p><p></p><p>Yeah, we get that. That is an understood point. But, moving past the obvious "DMs do whatever they want" we can look at the expectations put forth by the game... and it seems very likely that they expected the player to be in control of this point. The Player decides that they worship Apollo as Pheobus, the Light, and what that means. There is no reason they can't do the same for any other deity. Yes, they have suggestions, but those suggestions are just that. </p><p></p><p>For example, Hermes was the god of travelers and merchants. But he was also a Psychompomp and escort of the Dead. What reason is there to say "You can't be part of a cult that worships Hermes in his role as Psychopomp, because he doesn't have the Grave domain"? He was a Psychopomp. Just like Apollo was known as Pheobus. Barring the DM going on a tirade about how their Hermes is different from Hermes, and that the player should have known that they were only sort of following greek religions, what purpose is there in denying this?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So... being a god of a thing is less like looking like someone and more like having the same job. Think Michael Bay might have a similar bank account to Lucas, both of them being massive movie producers. I mean, if you are a god of light... you are probably into light stuff. If you are a god of war, you probably like fighting. If you are a god of community then you probably share interests with other gods of community. It doesn't matter what your face looks like.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, no splat book in talking about Hestia (she's in Appendix B) or the Light Domain (The PHB) so, not sure why the post about splat's. </p><p></p><p>But let's look into Versimilitude. Cults exist. We agree on this. Cults exist to emphasize aspects of a deity. We agree on this. Why is it MORE "versimitudal" to have Hestia, famous for her fire and light, to be UNABLE to grant a domain of light to a cult about that light, than for her to be able to do that? </p><p></p><p>I mean, literally, her entire job description on Olympus was caring for the Hearthfire. That was it. What sort of break in logic is it to say that that light is important enough to warrant a domain? </p><p></p><p>NOTHING says it has anything to do with power. Multiple very powerful gods only have one domain. And so in all three questions you ask... your point fails. It follows the continuity of the goddess, it makes realistic sense, and it is credible. the only stumbling block is you saying it must not make sense... because reasons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8433396, member: 6801228"] I don't care if everyone will have them. They are meant to illustrate the point. Some gods that were more iconic got listed. They obviously weren't going to list every god. Instead, they expected people to add the domains where appropriate. This clearly indicates that the listed domains for the gods are NOT exhaustive. Adding to that list is expected. But if your only argument against something is "The DM might not allow it" then that argument can be applied to everything and anything. "I would learn the fireball spell at level 5 as a wizard" "Well, the DM might not allow you to do that. It is their prerogative to override the game" Yeah, we get that. That is an understood point. But, moving past the obvious "DMs do whatever they want" we can look at the expectations put forth by the game... and it seems very likely that they expected the player to be in control of this point. The Player decides that they worship Apollo as Pheobus, the Light, and what that means. There is no reason they can't do the same for any other deity. Yes, they have suggestions, but those suggestions are just that. For example, Hermes was the god of travelers and merchants. But he was also a Psychompomp and escort of the Dead. What reason is there to say "You can't be part of a cult that worships Hermes in his role as Psychopomp, because he doesn't have the Grave domain"? He was a Psychopomp. Just like Apollo was known as Pheobus. Barring the DM going on a tirade about how their Hermes is different from Hermes, and that the player should have known that they were only sort of following greek religions, what purpose is there in denying this? So... being a god of a thing is less like looking like someone and more like having the same job. Think Michael Bay might have a similar bank account to Lucas, both of them being massive movie producers. I mean, if you are a god of light... you are probably into light stuff. If you are a god of war, you probably like fighting. If you are a god of community then you probably share interests with other gods of community. It doesn't matter what your face looks like. So, no splat book in talking about Hestia (she's in Appendix B) or the Light Domain (The PHB) so, not sure why the post about splat's. But let's look into Versimilitude. Cults exist. We agree on this. Cults exist to emphasize aspects of a deity. We agree on this. Why is it MORE "versimitudal" to have Hestia, famous for her fire and light, to be UNABLE to grant a domain of light to a cult about that light, than for her to be able to do that? I mean, literally, her entire job description on Olympus was caring for the Hearthfire. That was it. What sort of break in logic is it to say that that light is important enough to warrant a domain? NOTHING says it has anything to do with power. Multiple very powerful gods only have one domain. And so in all three questions you ask... your point fails. It follows the continuity of the goddess, it makes realistic sense, and it is credible. the only stumbling block is you saying it must not make sense... because reasons. [/QUOTE]
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