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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8434210" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>There is no reason to assume that one god of vigilance, who has never before this edition had any association with Light, who was given access to Twilight is somehow special. There is no argument that you have put forth that makes Helm special and grants him access when other gods of the same arrangement would not. </p><p></p><p>Darkvision? Halflings don't get darkvision, so the Halfling Goddess of Protection and Vigilance should get it then if that is your argument. </p><p></p><p>You are trying to make this special pleading, that Helm is somehow unique in a way that he is not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Or maybe you don't make good points.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think you even understood my post because your response is nonsensical. </p><p></p><p>Helm is presented as a "general god" who is worshiped by all races. </p><p>Helm is not expressly stated to be a human god. Nothing anywhere states "Helm, the human god of". </p><p>This personally annoys me despite being true. </p><p>There is no god or goddess listed in in the PHB who is "The Human god(dess) of..." </p><p></p><p>Helm is in the PHB. </p><p>Helm is, again, not "The Human God of..." anywhere.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why can't I use those secrets? I have the knowledge of the magic and how to use it (that's part of the secret, just knowing that something is possible is rarely a secret, especially when it comes to obvious powers of people) so I should be able to... do it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8434210, member: 6801228"] There is no reason to assume that one god of vigilance, who has never before this edition had any association with Light, who was given access to Twilight is somehow special. There is no argument that you have put forth that makes Helm special and grants him access when other gods of the same arrangement would not. Darkvision? Halflings don't get darkvision, so the Halfling Goddess of Protection and Vigilance should get it then if that is your argument. You are trying to make this special pleading, that Helm is somehow unique in a way that he is not. Or maybe you don't make good points. I don't think you even understood my post because your response is nonsensical. Helm is presented as a "general god" who is worshiped by all races. Helm is not expressly stated to be a human god. Nothing anywhere states "Helm, the human god of". This personally annoys me despite being true. There is no god or goddess listed in in the PHB who is "The Human god(dess) of..." Helm is in the PHB. Helm is, again, not "The Human God of..." anywhere. Why can't I use those secrets? I have the knowledge of the magic and how to use it (that's part of the secret, just knowing that something is possible is rarely a secret, especially when it comes to obvious powers of people) so I should be able to... do it. [/QUOTE]
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