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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8434462" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Thank you for saying you were wrong. Didn't need the insult along with it, but hey, progress. Now, let me just run something past you. I go to my DM and I say "Hey, I'm running a Elven Twilight Cleric of Angharradh who is a folk hero of his village for helping them survive a season of goblin raids." How am I doing anything wrong?Alright, find me a quote calling him a human god. To be EXPRESSLY a human god, then it has to be EXPRESSED, AKA said directly. So, find me a place where it says "Helm, the human god" or "The Human God, Helm," or anything like that. Because not being a expressly non-human god doesn't make you an expressly human god.I agree this is a logical conclusion, that's why I homebrewed many of these beings to be Human Gods in my homebrew setting. But, they are not expressly human gods. Let's try this though, I know we can find non-human worshipers of Helm. You know we can too. So, let's inverse this. Find me a non-elf (including non-half elf) worshiper of Corellon. Because I think you'll find that there are basically never if not actually zero non-elf worshipers of the Elven Pantheon. But, there are explicitly canonical non-human worshipers of the "generic gods" For example, I'm sure that Mystra has worshipers of all races, but she isn't listed as a non-human goddess, so by your logic she is a human goddess. Despite that flying in the face of the lore of the Forgotten Realms.I don't want trees and tweeting birds, I want the ability to cow and command beasts, the ability to summon a thorny vine to rip and tear my enemies. Ect. You are putting forth a barrier that doesn't actually exist.</blockquote>

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