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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8435551" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Not drama, it was the question I asked. Not that I didn't know the answer, and you gave exactly the answer I expected you'd give.Really? Because we can't seem to get passed "But the DM may veto your cleric" as the answer to EVERY QUESTION. And in trying to find reasons for people to keep bringing it up... it seems to be just because.So, if you have reasons beyond "because" then like I said, let's move past the DM vetoing everything and discuss the other aspects of this.First of all, you have your own argument backwards, again. Since Portfolios are just collections of domains, you would be saying that since he doesn't have the nature domain he can't have nature in his portfolio. Secondly, we've addressed this ad nausem,You can't even get my own example right... I've never once said he was a nature god. Still a god of secrets, this entire time. I also feel like you aren't in a position to decide what a "normal" DM is.Or I could follow the rules, like I've been doing, and you could accept that. But you won't. Because you've decided the rules say something else, and you refuse to even consider you might be wrong.For serving the DM they sure do seem to be calling the shots. Also, the DM is a player, so kind of weird that they don't serve players, but they serve a player. You mean like Mystra? A goddess who isn't a human goddess, as she existed before humans were created but isn't listed as a goddess of any particular race? A goddess who is famous for being neutral in all things, and so CAN'T be a racial deity as that would disrupt the balance. Also a peer of Helm, who is an old god as well. Helm who is also not listed as a human god... nor is he listed as a god of any particular race, as he has followers of all races. I feel like I've presented these facts before. And your response was... since they aren't a non-human deity, they must be a human deity. Which controverts the very existence of Mystra, Chauntea, Shar and Selune and their roles in the creation of Abier-Toril.The cleric picks the domain. Unless the DM is the cleric, I wonder how you get this being the DMs decision first. Well, actually I don't, I know you believe the DM to have absolute power to do anything for any reason, no matter what, so everything is actually "unless the DM changes it" Including the rule that says that everything is "unless the DM changes it"</blockquote>

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