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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8435917" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Who said I was in jail? I said I was beaten by the sheriff. </p><p></p><p>Who determined that we were using a setting where prisoners were left to starve to death? Who determined that the legal system isn't more like our own? </p><p></p><p>Or, in summary, you said it was impossible not because of some group I am theoritically a part of, but because you decided on a bunch of rules and assumptions that didn't actually exist until you said they did and used them to declare my incredibly simply idea was impossible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I don't. By this reading you are somehow stating that even though the Acolyte offers an option to have been formerly part of a fiendish cult, you don't see that as part of the rules of Acolyte. It has the same weight as working in an established temple. </p><p></p><p>Also, it seems that because some other company made a named background that this somehow matters? I don't know why Kobold Press would matter at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I don't believe that the character has your name on it. The rules say absolutely nothing about a Fiend Warlock having sold their soul being a requirement. Actually, rereading it, they don't mention souls AT ALL. So, you have decided as the DM to impose your will on the player's character. </p><p></p><p>Again, is controlling the entire world and 99.99% of the population of that world not enough for you? You absolutely must control my character's backstory as well, demanding that I conform to your preconceived notions of how these things must work.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Guiding the players to conform to exactly what you want. You assume and make up new rules to constantly tell me how I am wrong and going against the "group's will" when there is no group here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Escaping jail is outlandish and unbelievable? Wow. I can't even think of how ridiculous that is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, you prevent people from writing backgrounds at all. Unsurprising. If people could write a background that includes things like a family and where they grew up, you wouldn't be able to control them. </p><p></p><p>Oh, I'm sure you'll tell some sob story about how some player said they were a dragon slayer blessed by all the gods with invincible armor and some other BS. But the current result is that I can't even say "I was beaten by the sheriff" without you coming down and telling me how impossible and unrealistic that is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You've tried to tell me it was impossible to have a character who was beat up by a sheriff, because you made assumptions and forced those assumptions on me. </p><p></p><p>You have actually just stated that you basically forbid people from writing backgrounds at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And yet, every time you post you reinforce how little control you allow players to actually have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8435917, member: 6801228"] Who said I was in jail? I said I was beaten by the sheriff. Who determined that we were using a setting where prisoners were left to starve to death? Who determined that the legal system isn't more like our own? Or, in summary, you said it was impossible not because of some group I am theoritically a part of, but because you decided on a bunch of rules and assumptions that didn't actually exist until you said they did and used them to declare my incredibly simply idea was impossible. No, I don't. By this reading you are somehow stating that even though the Acolyte offers an option to have been formerly part of a fiendish cult, you don't see that as part of the rules of Acolyte. It has the same weight as working in an established temple. Also, it seems that because some other company made a named background that this somehow matters? I don't know why Kobold Press would matter at all. Again, I don't believe that the character has your name on it. The rules say absolutely nothing about a Fiend Warlock having sold their soul being a requirement. Actually, rereading it, they don't mention souls AT ALL. So, you have decided as the DM to impose your will on the player's character. Again, is controlling the entire world and 99.99% of the population of that world not enough for you? You absolutely must control my character's backstory as well, demanding that I conform to your preconceived notions of how these things must work. Guiding the players to conform to exactly what you want. You assume and make up new rules to constantly tell me how I am wrong and going against the "group's will" when there is no group here. Escaping jail is outlandish and unbelievable? Wow. I can't even think of how ridiculous that is. So, you prevent people from writing backgrounds at all. Unsurprising. If people could write a background that includes things like a family and where they grew up, you wouldn't be able to control them. Oh, I'm sure you'll tell some sob story about how some player said they were a dragon slayer blessed by all the gods with invincible armor and some other BS. But the current result is that I can't even say "I was beaten by the sheriff" without you coming down and telling me how impossible and unrealistic that is. You've tried to tell me it was impossible to have a character who was beat up by a sheriff, because you made assumptions and forced those assumptions on me. You have actually just stated that you basically forbid people from writing backgrounds at all. And yet, every time you post you reinforce how little control you allow players to actually have. [/QUOTE]
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