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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8435977" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>I. Because you asked what I would do. This means you invited yourself to my game. I graciously allowed it to see where it would go.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Me. Again. As you invited yourself.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Even without you being in my game. There isn't much a low level character can do. And with a paragraph or two for a background... </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Ho... and your own assumptions about domains are ok? Even if they're against the rules. Ok thank you for that clarification.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Me neither. That is why I was confused. That background exist though. If you want to play catch 22, warn me that you are using a "suggestion" in the Acolyte section. Strange that a rule on domain can be ignored by you but a "suggestion" with big "may be" can not be ignored by us.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You make a pact with a fiend. Go to fiend, they make pacts to get souls. Come on man. You know it as good as I. You even argued for that explicit thing so that they can be gods! Now all of a sudden, they're no longer interested in souls???? Make up your mind my friend.</p><p></p><p>And no I did not imposed my will on player's character. You are trying to impose your view on our game. When you join a table, you must abide by the table. AND my table is very democratic. You may call it the tyranny of the majority if you will. But democracy rules. Especially at session zero where the players and I votes on which rules will be applied. You keep ignoring this fact. Are you so open with your players? Or is it just a pretense?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope, I ask you to conform to the parameters of the PHB. You are in no obligation to write a full back ground story. In fact, all you need is to choose or roll under acolyte (if that is the background you wish) on the little tables under Acolyte and here you go. Details will add up as the character progress in the campaign. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, you invited yourself to my game with your questions. And yes, the tyranny of the majority applies to my games. </p><p></p><p></p><p>For a first level? Of course it is. For a 4th level thief/monk or any character with lock picking? Much more believable. But as of 1st level. Nope.</p><p></p><p></p><p>A paragraph or two at most. Which include family, some acquaintance and a few other things related to class and race if necessary. 1st level character might not survive past 2nd or 3rd level so why write pages of essay on something that might not even see the glimmer of light of play? </p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, been there done that. Even you have heard these stories and probably laughed at it. And if you knew how "constables" were truly administering justice, you would simply not do these stories.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, you asked me how it would work. So I obliged you.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I just limit them to basic things. And again, players are quite happy with that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>They have all the freedom they want within the parameters that were set by them upon voting. Who am I to contest their will? They do not want to lose hours on character creation (which, again, might not even survive past 3rd level). Story and background will arise from interaction from the world as we keep background opened. It is not a fixed thing as background will evolve over time as the character will grow, so will their background.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 8435977, member: 6855114"] I. Because you asked what I would do. This means you invited yourself to my game. I graciously allowed it to see where it would go. Me. Again. As you invited yourself. Even without you being in my game. There isn't much a low level character can do. And with a paragraph or two for a background... Ho... and your own assumptions about domains are ok? Even if they're against the rules. Ok thank you for that clarification. Me neither. That is why I was confused. That background exist though. If you want to play catch 22, warn me that you are using a "suggestion" in the Acolyte section. Strange that a rule on domain can be ignored by you but a "suggestion" with big "may be" can not be ignored by us. You make a pact with a fiend. Go to fiend, they make pacts to get souls. Come on man. You know it as good as I. You even argued for that explicit thing so that they can be gods! Now all of a sudden, they're no longer interested in souls???? Make up your mind my friend. And no I did not imposed my will on player's character. You are trying to impose your view on our game. When you join a table, you must abide by the table. AND my table is very democratic. You may call it the tyranny of the majority if you will. But democracy rules. Especially at session zero where the players and I votes on which rules will be applied. You keep ignoring this fact. Are you so open with your players? Or is it just a pretense? Nope, I ask you to conform to the parameters of the PHB. You are in no obligation to write a full back ground story. In fact, all you need is to choose or roll under acolyte (if that is the background you wish) on the little tables under Acolyte and here you go. Details will add up as the character progress in the campaign. Well, you invited yourself to my game with your questions. And yes, the tyranny of the majority applies to my games. For a first level? Of course it is. For a 4th level thief/monk or any character with lock picking? Much more believable. But as of 1st level. Nope. A paragraph or two at most. Which include family, some acquaintance and a few other things related to class and race if necessary. 1st level character might not survive past 2nd or 3rd level so why write pages of essay on something that might not even see the glimmer of light of play? Again, been there done that. Even you have heard these stories and probably laughed at it. And if you knew how "constables" were truly administering justice, you would simply not do these stories. Again, you asked me how it would work. So I obliged you. No, I just limit them to basic things. And again, players are quite happy with that. They have all the freedom they want within the parameters that were set by them upon voting. Who am I to contest their will? They do not want to lose hours on character creation (which, again, might not even survive past 3rd level). Story and background will arise from interaction from the world as we keep background opened. It is not a fixed thing as background will evolve over time as the character will grow, so will their background. [/QUOTE]
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