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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8438248" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>No, these are the costs. There isn't a seperate listing for NPC costs. If you want to play the "I just make up numbers game" we can play it. But it will render all conversation useless.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, my claim is that you started just making things up to justify calling something impossible. And considering that to defend it you want to just make up numbers...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, you need a massive difference in heat and cold. "Extreme" heat and cold is relative, since there are materials that boil at room temperature.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, these are the prices, because guess what? The PC might end up BEING the local lord. I know it is impossible in your world, but the game does provide the "noble" background and nothing at all is written forbidding PCs from being the local lord. So, there is no reason to assume that the prices are going to change. </p><p></p><p>Additionally, the casting was not declared free. You declared it was them paying their taxes. This means it has a monetary value. And there are official equations for how much casting a spell costs, and you will note if you go back and reference it, the larger part of the cost isn't coming from the components. Now, if you want to change it, AGAIN, so that the caster is forced to work for a month or so traveling from small village to small village providing thousands of gold of labor for "free" with no regard to what they actually owe in taxes... Well, it just goes to show that you really will stop at nothing to enforce your will despite any opposition.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, that's dead wrong. We are using medieval logic remember? Pickpockets were sentenced to hang. The character who I proposed was never even accused of a crime in this thread, and you had him being executed next day. </p><p></p><p>Also, just read your own frickin post. Pick pockets won't try to escape, but criminals will? Are you just not aware that stealing is a crime? And maybe the drunk DOES try to escape.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But if they do have a jail (like you forced the character I proposed into) it will be magically enchanted and capable of holding any sized creature.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Funny how I see a lack of evidence for this. But I guess that's par for the course at this point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And desertion is very different when instead of just being a bandit with a knife, you can call down the forces of nature to raze villages to the ground. But, hey, willful ignorance and not even understanding my post is just par for the course at this point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Using the PHB is homebrewing? Wow. I thought I'd seen it all. You are just flat out shameless.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8438248, member: 6801228"] No, these are the costs. There isn't a seperate listing for NPC costs. If you want to play the "I just make up numbers game" we can play it. But it will render all conversation useless. No, my claim is that you started just making things up to justify calling something impossible. And considering that to defend it you want to just make up numbers... No, you need a massive difference in heat and cold. "Extreme" heat and cold is relative, since there are materials that boil at room temperature. No, these are the prices, because guess what? The PC might end up BEING the local lord. I know it is impossible in your world, but the game does provide the "noble" background and nothing at all is written forbidding PCs from being the local lord. So, there is no reason to assume that the prices are going to change. Additionally, the casting was not declared free. You declared it was them paying their taxes. This means it has a monetary value. And there are official equations for how much casting a spell costs, and you will note if you go back and reference it, the larger part of the cost isn't coming from the components. Now, if you want to change it, AGAIN, so that the caster is forced to work for a month or so traveling from small village to small village providing thousands of gold of labor for "free" with no regard to what they actually owe in taxes... Well, it just goes to show that you really will stop at nothing to enforce your will despite any opposition. Well, that's dead wrong. We are using medieval logic remember? Pickpockets were sentenced to hang. The character who I proposed was never even accused of a crime in this thread, and you had him being executed next day. Also, just read your own frickin post. Pick pockets won't try to escape, but criminals will? Are you just not aware that stealing is a crime? And maybe the drunk DOES try to escape. But if they do have a jail (like you forced the character I proposed into) it will be magically enchanted and capable of holding any sized creature. Funny how I see a lack of evidence for this. But I guess that's par for the course at this point. And desertion is very different when instead of just being a bandit with a knife, you can call down the forces of nature to raze villages to the ground. But, hey, willful ignorance and not even understanding my post is just par for the course at this point. Using the PHB is homebrewing? Wow. I thought I'd seen it all. You are just flat out shameless. [/QUOTE]
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