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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8439013" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>Average living expanses for the adventurer is 1 gold per day. Or 7 gold per week. This is way more than the average peasant will ever see.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But not the players.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope. But at this point it becomes childish. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Or not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Take CO2 that you find in extinguisher. They can kill, they're pretty darn cold and guess what? They will not harm a gypse wall, much less a concrete wall or a stone wall. Your point is utter BS. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is why you have to extrapolate for 5ed. We do not have the rules. Either you make them up, or you inspire yourself from older book. One the main principles of 5ed is compatibility with older editions. That was its main selling point. So taking what was done for these cases in the abscence of current rules is actually what almost everyone does.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Court wizard, academicians even the priesthood can be put to contribution. Some of them might even do it out of patriotism. It is not only wizards that can cast these spells.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A working day per month is actually not that much and it was done in the past. Where do you think most soldiers would get their clothes? Hey, levies were providing their own quilted armor (when they could). They were not paid either. Your lack of knowledge on medieval times is showing there.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Hey! You insists on 5ed. I bring a 5ed system (in which levies and taxation can be paid (in previous edition) with work too). I just followed your own train of thoughts. </p><p></p><p></p><p>So far we have talked about: Greyhawk, Krynn, The Realms, Athas (Darksun) and even the planes and real world. I know it can be confusing but hey! You change setting according to your liking. Why can't I. And on the plus side, the legal system of Waterdeep was reprinted and explained in details in Dragon Heist. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, in the Realms, high level casters are almost legions.</p><p>And yes, kill them is the simplest answer. But for "political" prisonners, a nice temporal stasis is always a good thing to do.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So you can do it but not me? Not a very fair position you have there. 5ed has no rules for kingdoms and similar simulations. Either homebrew or refer to older material to do it. Until we have a clear rule book for that, I guess we're stuck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 8439013, member: 6855114"] Average living expanses for the adventurer is 1 gold per day. Or 7 gold per week. This is way more than the average peasant will ever see. But not the players. Nope. But at this point it becomes childish. Or not. Take CO2 that you find in extinguisher. They can kill, they're pretty darn cold and guess what? They will not harm a gypse wall, much less a concrete wall or a stone wall. Your point is utter BS. That is why you have to extrapolate for 5ed. We do not have the rules. Either you make them up, or you inspire yourself from older book. One the main principles of 5ed is compatibility with older editions. That was its main selling point. So taking what was done for these cases in the abscence of current rules is actually what almost everyone does. Court wizard, academicians even the priesthood can be put to contribution. Some of them might even do it out of patriotism. It is not only wizards that can cast these spells. A working day per month is actually not that much and it was done in the past. Where do you think most soldiers would get their clothes? Hey, levies were providing their own quilted armor (when they could). They were not paid either. Your lack of knowledge on medieval times is showing there. Hey! You insists on 5ed. I bring a 5ed system (in which levies and taxation can be paid (in previous edition) with work too). I just followed your own train of thoughts. So far we have talked about: Greyhawk, Krynn, The Realms, Athas (Darksun) and even the planes and real world. I know it can be confusing but hey! You change setting according to your liking. Why can't I. And on the plus side, the legal system of Waterdeep was reprinted and explained in details in Dragon Heist. Well, in the Realms, high level casters are almost legions. And yes, kill them is the simplest answer. But for "political" prisonners, a nice temporal stasis is always a good thing to do. So you can do it but not me? Not a very fair position you have there. 5ed has no rules for kingdoms and similar simulations. Either homebrew or refer to older material to do it. Until we have a clear rule book for that, I guess we're stuck. [/QUOTE]
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