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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8440273" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I'm not entirely sure I follow your example, but I can sort of see the main thrust of it. Correct me if I'm wrong but it would seem you want to have the semi-acceptable ones like Hextor remain gods, but the world-enders to become more like Archdemons? I could get behind that, because I think that we have long noticed the issue with Evil Extraplanar entities and gods that they just don't make much sense to worship. As presented, no one in their right mind worships Tharizdun, because he wants to destroy everything and leave nothing but an empty void. And I think part of the reason this sort of changeover hasn't happened before was this very... Judeo-Western view that &quot;God&quot; is a term that denotes a supreme level of power, and specifically makes them more powerful than their foes, the Demons. I think that assumption is why many of these massive threats and world-ending monstrosities are called &quot;gods&quot;, because they must be supremely powerful to fill their roles, and only &quot;Gods&quot; can be supremely powerful. I think once you step away from that assumption, and allow power to just be power, it suddenly becomes much easier to put &quot;monster of destruction&quot; in one category, &quot;world ruling tyrants&quot; in another category, and start sifting through the entries and have less of this &quot;middle ground&quot; you are thinking of</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8440273, member: 6801228"] I'm not entirely sure I follow your example, but I can sort of see the main thrust of it. Correct me if I'm wrong but it would seem you want to have the semi-acceptable ones like Hextor remain gods, but the world-enders to become more like Archdemons? I could get behind that, because I think that we have long noticed the issue with Evil Extraplanar entities and gods that they just don't make much sense to worship. As presented, no one in their right mind worships Tharizdun, because he wants to destroy everything and leave nothing but an empty void. And I think part of the reason this sort of changeover hasn't happened before was this very... Judeo-Western view that "God" is a term that denotes a supreme level of power, and specifically makes them more powerful than their foes, the Demons. I think that assumption is why many of these massive threats and world-ending monstrosities are called "gods", because they must be supremely powerful to fill their roles, and only "Gods" can be supremely powerful. I think once you step away from that assumption, and allow power to just be power, it suddenly becomes much easier to put "monster of destruction" in one category, "world ruling tyrants" in another category, and start sifting through the entries and have less of this "middle ground" you are thinking of [/QUOTE]

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