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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8442261" data-attributes="member: 6855114">Who cares? Not me. System shock is also a thing to consider. And I claim it would not. At the very least, it would have resistance. I'd give it immunity unless a special circumstance would come up. A dank cell in a dank dungeon. But we're talking about a jail here.Some glasses are better than others. Just as some materials are more resistant to others. I don't see the point of saying that stone would be destroyed. You just proved that a good quality glass will resist but not a lesser one. A good stone will resist the same. And guess what? Stone in a prison will be of a good quality. You don't want prisoners to escape don't you?You brought up Eberron. Not me.You seem to like to remind me of things I already know then for some reasons you decide to ignore your own logic... Not all of these starts in Waterdeep. But all these starts in "civilized" places. Thus all these must have a legal system. Basing yourself on Waterdeep's system is relatively easy as most medieval countries had the same basic laws with some differences, yes, but the basics were close. The same can be assumed. I have a all the FR 1-16 from 1ed and guess what? All legal systems, whenever shown, were close to those of Waterdeep. Your lack of knowledge of previous editions is showing here. But even without that, refusing to acknowledge that like cities would apply the same basics as laws is simply being stubborn.And? Who cares? You apparently. You know that it can be easily adapted to the Realm don't you?Just like you. You claim that no cities will have a legal system close to Waterdeep. .Not necessarily. But if you are warned that the lock is trapped with a deadly spells, and you know that this is a common practice, would you dare to prove the guy wrong or would you acknowledge that and stay quiet as long as you are in jail? Every sensible being would. Who would be stupid enough enough to knowingly touch a 14.5kv elecritcal fence to prove it is not so? Remember this is a world where magic exists. People are aware of it and are more than likely to have seen it into action. So yep. No one would try to discharge it unless death would be near.Ha but we are in a fantasy world! Anything can go!That is new... who said you were in a hostile territory? A small village can be near a megalopolis you know... You know that a baron can own a crown? A baroness can wear one too! A lot of titled lords will represent the Crown. At this point, you are splitting hair. But being a constable, sheriff, deputee or whatever means that you are working for someone. You can't be corrupt if you are own boss. Abusive yes. Corrupt? Well, it could depend on your point of view. But being a constable means you work as a representative of the laws of (insert any country, king or whatever you think here).Hey! I use your style! Don't like it? Stop using it yourself!Good! That is a lot less costly than what you estimated by my standards. I love it when the rich can save money! Just like in real life! We can make a simulationnist out of you yet! There is still hope.Your guess is as good as mine. Pick a number. From zero to a few who cares? If a king, lord or whatever thinks that this security is needed, no costs will be too low. This is the kind of thing we see right here right now in our world.Well, as I said, you should comply with the character creation process that is allowed at a table. I would conform to your rules. Why can't you conform to mine?I perfectly accomodate my players. Not you, my players. Remembers that rules are voted by the players too. Majority rules. But acknowledge that there are some that can is also canon too! Not all, but some. And these some are called priests. They are in the MM. They can cast 3rd level spells. You are the one insisting that no clergy members can cast spells. Not me. Again, levels of security is decided by the lord, crown, king, emperor or whomever is in charge. Not the player. Who knows? Maybe the village is near an hostile territory or on a very well traveled road that justifies more that one cell being protected by such spells! That is the only sensible thing in your argumentation so far. So you don't acknowledge marketplaces (aka Bazaar)... I did not know that such evidences had to be written down... Ho but wait! There are market places in Baldur's gate maps, Waterdeep's map and in its description in the Dragon's Heist. I bet I could find even more in other books as well... Come on man, stop nitpicking for the fun of it.</blockquote>

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