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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8442727" data-attributes="member: 6855114">A system shock can come from many causes. Cold isn't the only one. Sever trauma can result in one. If your arm gets cristalized by cold, you can bet that you will enter into one. This is accounted for in the damage.1) Yes I would give it immunity unless some special condition would allow for "resistance" only. I am perfectly within my rights as a DM.2) Plaster can be put on stone. In fact, many exposed house foundations (stone or concrete) are recovered in that material as it prevents water damage (and incidentaly winter damage). Do not believe Holywood on how cells were made.3) The jail will probably be the only stone building in the village. Barring a small temple/shrine.4) You know that concrete was in existence even in the Egyptian era? Even in a medieval fantasy setting, concrete can be a thing.1) A jail is not made for one type of crime alone. 2) If you go to a modern jail, they do not make one jail for rapist, one for killers, one for robbers and so on. You can have a maximum security jail and a normal jail. In a setting in which magic is relatively available, one such cell is quite reasonable as the glyph might not be triggered in years.You are the one saying that all cities would share laws. They would have similarities. That is my claim. And yours too as I can see. Of course different culture might have "different" crimes and punishment. But basicaly, it would be the same in effect.Reread the posts. You are the one claiming Waterdeep. I admit you sidetracked me, but I claimed Realms. Forgotten Realms. And? That does not prevent a legal system of some sort to exists. If you assume corrupt. Then the system must be reasonably close to Waterdeep. I do not think Thay would have the same system and the corrupt in Thay means that the Sheriff would have saved you from the gallows pole. So a corrupted officer must be working against the law. So it is safe to assume that you are good, he is evil. (No evil characters in my games)But you might be there waiting for a fair trial. You might be the drunk thrown in there for the time you get sober again. You might... you see the point, but refuse to see it. Again, with a corrupt official you'd be simply dead.Logic always applies until it doesn't. Extremely convenient isn't it?How many times do they travel without random encounters? That is a good question. In civilized area, almost always. In contested area, I usually go for 3 per day rolled for the entirety of the trek. Then I create a day where there could be up to 6 encounters (if there are that many, or if even more than 6, they would be divided into the approriate numbers of day required so that each day would be as close as possible to 6).And? Beside the obvious, do you have a point to make?Chain of command.No, I claim to use your own method. So far I fare quite well.????????????? Why do you bring Maxperson into this?Not really. I found that your claim of 30 cells like that were a bit exagerated but believable. With my math it is even more cost effective than I first thought! With your cell estimations and my math, you proved that it was not that costly. Wrong. Dead wrong. The rules are there to insure a quick start. You do not create your character at home and then start to play. We all (you included) get to vote on what type of campaign we wish, the optional rules we will use, the type of party the players want and then we jump into character creation (all this takes about an hour, top. Sometimes when everyone agrees with due haste, it takes about 20 minutes). This leaves us with much more time to play.I use the current agreed upon method. I already told you that. So for the moment, character backgrounds are limited to the PHB and the rolls (or choice) you make on these tables. That is all you get.Again, both a yes and no.A church may not have an all cleric worshippers. But all casters will probably be clerics (unless impostors or people taking the mantle while a true cleric comes to take the place). A "priest" in the MM is in p.348 if you want to check. NOT a cleric, A priest! So by def, all priest can cast spells. Funny how in some posts you claim the MM is important because it supports your views and in this one, you decide to ignore it.There are a lot of positions in a church/temple that do not require spell casters. The janitor is one of these. The provisionner is an other one and you know that there are a lot more. Temple guards, accolytes, neophytes and yaddi yadda. Working at a temple does not mean you are a cleric. But being a priest, is defined in the MM. Being an acolyte is also defined. P. 342 of the MM. Maybe a non casting acolyte can exist because that acolyte left before finishing his full training. Maybe the acolyte did not have true faith but a simple dedication explaining why he did not became a full acolyte/priest or cleric. The acolyte background does not mean that you have achieve that status. Just that you started your life as one. If you are not a divine caster, it might simply means that you tried but changed your mind.Why would I not like you? I do not like your position. But not liking your position is not the same as you as a person. I have nothing more that what is happening in places where the bazaar is still in places. I already said how economics works. If you do not agree with that, it is your choice. But go out in Istanbul or if you have friends from muslim countries, ask them how a bazaar works. It will be enlightening. I assure you of that. The bartering system is both an art and a passion for them. We, in the occident, lost that tradition but we are starting to see it rise again in the used market and in flea market.Edit: And for the not liking you postion...This is very far for from the truth. It is not because I do not like your position that I do not like you. In fact, I do appreciate some of your positions (not in this post obviously) and in some cases, It made me think about how I/we do things in our games and even reconsider our ways of doing things. [USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER] actually changed my mind on a few occasions, [USER=6801845]@Oofta[/USER] too. Even [USER=177]@Umbran[/USER] made me think about quite a few things I took for granted. [USER=6779196]@Charlaquin[/USER] made me think hard on some occasions too and made me change my mind or adapt some of my stances. The point is, if I were not to like you. You would know. I now use your debate methods because you keep rejecting to see a post in its entirety and nitpick on sentences or even words. I prefer to argue on the intent instead of a particular word or sentence but I am perfectly capable and willing to adapt. You nitpick, I can do it too. I am using your own methods and all of a sudden, you see me as not liking you... And all this started because I would not allow such a background in my current game. And yet, I some other campaign, that background would work simply because at that time, the players were starting around level 5 and decided to write full background on what went before. The main point of my arguement is the following: "A player must follow the accepted guidelines at a given table." Wheter these guidelines are imposed by the DM, voted upon by the players has no bearing on the fact that a player can not impose his or her will onto a table.A player must inform him(her)self of the current rules, books used and allowed at character creation at a table that person is joining. Is that hard to accept?</blockquote>

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