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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 7460618" data-attributes="member: 19675">I found my “better than” in HERO, but 3.X has held steady as my #2.  I’m really digging Cypher right noe, but haven’t gotten to give it an in-play shakedown cruise.But one of the major reasons for D&D’s market dominance is a simple thing: it was first to the market.  Being first is the single biggest factor in predicting any product’s success- as I recall, @67% of successful products were first to market.  Continued success, though, means you can’t just rest on your laurels.  You have to react- ideally proactively- to market forces.  In the RPG market, the biggest manifestation of that is new editions.I disagree.  If ever there was a company in a position to launch a second big RPG title, it was WotC at that time.The fact that it was labeled D&D was a roadblock to acceptance precisely because it was so different.  That label meant it was automatically going to be compared to what was not only the original RPG, but also the most popular game on the market...as a replacement. That’s the New Coke trap to a T; a big part of why people like me said it didn’t feel right.Nope.Multiple attacks, whether from a single source (iterative attacks, a spell) or massed attackers ganging up boosts DPR or the odds that a side effect will trigger, thus dropping foes more quickly. Heck, look at some of the more highly regarded 4Ed powers, especially for strikers.  Many give an actual second (or more!) attack or let you replace one (presumably failed) roll with the results of a reroll.  The conjuror/summoners & pet users can also get this benefit by having minions or powers increase the number of operant effects hitting enemies.Those all increase statistical odds of success, and that translates into quicker combats.I beg to differ.  3.X boosters tended to be larger and longer lasting- several rounds at least, if not a whole combat, hours or days of campaign world.  The fiddliest modifiers in 3.X were “next roll” (like True Strike) or AoE effects (like the auras of Paladin, Marshalls & Dragon Shamans).The net effect in 3.X is that- usually- your modifiers changed between combats or game sessions, not between rounds.  That’s a LOT less bookkeeping.Nobody in our group was a noob, but we did have experience gaps of decades and some were much more casual than others.  Had Essentials been part of the initial release, its streamlined class design would have been a HUGE boon to some of them.However, my understanding of the origins of Essentials was the feedback WotC got after 4Ed’s release, sooooo that was basically impossible. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />You’re still looking at it as D&D.  I’m looking at it as WotC’s HERO or GURPS.They tried that to a certain extent with 3.X, with Modern and Future, but 3.X isn’t as suited to being toolboxy as the bones of 4Ed.</blockquote>

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