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<blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 3477233" data-attributes="member: 18701"><p>That's exactly what I meant when I said, "Trust that I'm not a total goon". I appreciate your replies and I'm sure you're only trying to offer good advice. But all I'm getting from you is that you're criticizing my level of DM'ing and my understanding of how to DM players.</p><p></p><p>Obviously you weren't at the table and playing in the encounter. Obviously you don't know our campaign. And obviously you don't know the complete situation of what went on since I've only given a few general points here. I get the advice you're trying to relay to me and I appreciate it and am taking it into consideration. But by assuming that I'm a dopey enough DM to "tell them every scrap of information about the foe they are facing" is only going to waste your time by offering advice that won't benefit me since I'm not a dopey DM. </p><p></p><p>I don't give players any info about NPCs that will have any kind of affect on the situation. In this case, my goal was to make them nervous long term. My judgement call was to either continue with a sunder attempt that won't have any affect at all other than making the player nervous for about 30 more seconds of game time. Or, follow through with a full round attack that will threaten her life and make her nervous longer than 30 seconds of gameplay. I chose to go with the longer term affect and if that alerted them that his chains aren't +2, that is not going to have any affect on the game since logic would tell them anyway that he isn't weilding +2 chains.</p><p></p><p>They knew it was a Kyton and not "something that looks like a Kyton" because it had already performed Kyton special powers. It also wasn't the first Kyton they have encountered. Due to the (incorrect) rule, she would not have been worried by his sunder attempt because the players were already familiar with this NPC and would know his attempts are automatic failures rather than just him not bypassing Hardness.</p><p></p><p>If you don't agree with my judgement call, than that's fine. But it has nothing to do with my DMing skills and knowledge of how to DM "properly" as people love to point out to DMs online <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oryan77, post: 3477233, member: 18701"] That's exactly what I meant when I said, "Trust that I'm not a total goon". I appreciate your replies and I'm sure you're only trying to offer good advice. But all I'm getting from you is that you're criticizing my level of DM'ing and my understanding of how to DM players. Obviously you weren't at the table and playing in the encounter. Obviously you don't know our campaign. And obviously you don't know the complete situation of what went on since I've only given a few general points here. I get the advice you're trying to relay to me and I appreciate it and am taking it into consideration. But by assuming that I'm a dopey enough DM to "tell them every scrap of information about the foe they are facing" is only going to waste your time by offering advice that won't benefit me since I'm not a dopey DM. I don't give players any info about NPCs that will have any kind of affect on the situation. In this case, my goal was to make them nervous long term. My judgement call was to either continue with a sunder attempt that won't have any affect at all other than making the player nervous for about 30 more seconds of game time. Or, follow through with a full round attack that will threaten her life and make her nervous longer than 30 seconds of gameplay. I chose to go with the longer term affect and if that alerted them that his chains aren't +2, that is not going to have any affect on the game since logic would tell them anyway that he isn't weilding +2 chains. They knew it was a Kyton and not "something that looks like a Kyton" because it had already performed Kyton special powers. It also wasn't the first Kyton they have encountered. Due to the (incorrect) rule, she would not have been worried by his sunder attempt because the players were already familiar with this NPC and would know his attempts are automatic failures rather than just him not bypassing Hardness. If you don't agree with my judgement call, than that's fine. But it has nothing to do with my DMing skills and knowledge of how to DM "properly" as people love to point out to DMs online ;) [/QUOTE]
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