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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 3688724" data-attributes="member: 9002"><p><strong>errrr</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not going to restate the obvious (at length). Both haste 3.0 and WRT allow casters to pump out two or more spells a round. Haste 3.0 was thoroughly nerfed because this was egregiously too powerful. If you can't see the parallel (anything allowing casters to cast 2+ spells a round), I don't know what to say. If it was so bad that they changed haste 3.0, it is reasonable to assume something that allows it to happen again (even in slightly limited fashion) is VERY powerful, and likely over-the-top bad/crazy/stupid. And should be watched closely or simply banned (remembering th past).</p><p></p><p>And I am constantly amazed that people think personal opinions can't be "wrong" because they are "opinions." Of course they can. "In my opinion, the world blew up yesterday." That's your opinion, and it's wrong. "In my opinion, JS Bach is a worse musician than the lead singer of STRYKER." That's also an opinion, and it is wrong. "In my opinion, the sun is green." Also wrong. "In my opinion, a burned overcooked fragment of an old McDonald's hamburger makes a better dessert than anything the best French cook could come up with." That's a legitimate opinion, and also wrong. </p><p></p><p>Many people say things that are quite stupid, and/or base their opinions on partial knowledge, or simple ignorance. People also change their opinions, and don't (on a personal level) find it difficult to admit mistakes about their previous opinions. I've held opinions in the past that were - in a nutshell - both stupid and wrong. Flat out wrong. When I widened my horizons, I realized this, and my opinions altered.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying you don't believe your opinion to be true. People generally do. But your belief that it is true does not make it true, even for yourself.</p><p></p><p>You might make a distinction between trivial opinions, such as "I like vanilla more than dirt," and opinions which in turn touch and comment upon the wider world, where other truth systems have to be put into play (not just your own). "In my opinion, JS Bach is a worse musician than the lead singer of STRYKER:" here is an example of a personal opinion which touches upon the outside world (comparing musical qualities between two people of radically different generations) and to judge them you can't simply go "by the gut," you also have to consider both performer's body of work, critical opinions, historical impact, etc. That's not to say you CAN'T state: "In my opinion, JS Bach is a worse musician than the lead singer of STRYKER." You can. You can even believe it. But you will be, nevertheless, wrong, and likely with a little education your opinion will change and you will see the narrowness of your original claim.</p><p></p><p>Or are you telling me that the opinions I held when I was 10, which I view as shallow, stupid, and in many cases flat-out-wrong, were not, in fact wrong? Who else can best judge these things, if not myself?</p><p></p><p>Another easy topical example is "In my opinion Haste 3.0 is perfectly well balanced, and a good example of a Level 3 Arcane Spell." That is an opinion, and it's wrong. The designers think it's wrong; the vast majority of players thing it's wrong; logic and sense argue that it's wrong. Yes, you can still believe it. I am not telling you what to believe. I am just telling you that some of your beliefs are sometimes wrong.</p><p></p><p>Why is that such a shocking or surprising thing?</p><p></p><p>Don't we all know people who believe things fervently that are, however, "wrong..." -- unless you reduce the word "wrong" to mean "something which is not correct unless somebody believes it is correct in which case it is correct for that person regardless of any external circumstance or examination." </p><p></p><p>Which really means that nothing is "wrong." C'mon. We live in the real world here. </p><p></p><p>If nothing else, the criminal justice system laughs at your claim that "opinions can not be wrong."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="two, post: 3688724, member: 9002"] [b]errrr[/b] I'm not going to restate the obvious (at length). Both haste 3.0 and WRT allow casters to pump out two or more spells a round. Haste 3.0 was thoroughly nerfed because this was egregiously too powerful. If you can't see the parallel (anything allowing casters to cast 2+ spells a round), I don't know what to say. If it was so bad that they changed haste 3.0, it is reasonable to assume something that allows it to happen again (even in slightly limited fashion) is VERY powerful, and likely over-the-top bad/crazy/stupid. And should be watched closely or simply banned (remembering th past). And I am constantly amazed that people think personal opinions can't be "wrong" because they are "opinions." Of course they can. "In my opinion, the world blew up yesterday." That's your opinion, and it's wrong. "In my opinion, JS Bach is a worse musician than the lead singer of STRYKER." That's also an opinion, and it is wrong. "In my opinion, the sun is green." Also wrong. "In my opinion, a burned overcooked fragment of an old McDonald's hamburger makes a better dessert than anything the best French cook could come up with." That's a legitimate opinion, and also wrong. Many people say things that are quite stupid, and/or base their opinions on partial knowledge, or simple ignorance. People also change their opinions, and don't (on a personal level) find it difficult to admit mistakes about their previous opinions. I've held opinions in the past that were - in a nutshell - both stupid and wrong. Flat out wrong. When I widened my horizons, I realized this, and my opinions altered. I'm not saying you don't believe your opinion to be true. People generally do. But your belief that it is true does not make it true, even for yourself. You might make a distinction between trivial opinions, such as "I like vanilla more than dirt," and opinions which in turn touch and comment upon the wider world, where other truth systems have to be put into play (not just your own). "In my opinion, JS Bach is a worse musician than the lead singer of STRYKER:" here is an example of a personal opinion which touches upon the outside world (comparing musical qualities between two people of radically different generations) and to judge them you can't simply go "by the gut," you also have to consider both performer's body of work, critical opinions, historical impact, etc. That's not to say you CAN'T state: "In my opinion, JS Bach is a worse musician than the lead singer of STRYKER." You can. You can even believe it. But you will be, nevertheless, wrong, and likely with a little education your opinion will change and you will see the narrowness of your original claim. Or are you telling me that the opinions I held when I was 10, which I view as shallow, stupid, and in many cases flat-out-wrong, were not, in fact wrong? Who else can best judge these things, if not myself? Another easy topical example is "In my opinion Haste 3.0 is perfectly well balanced, and a good example of a Level 3 Arcane Spell." That is an opinion, and it's wrong. The designers think it's wrong; the vast majority of players thing it's wrong; logic and sense argue that it's wrong. Yes, you can still believe it. I am not telling you what to believe. I am just telling you that some of your beliefs are sometimes wrong. Why is that such a shocking or surprising thing? Don't we all know people who believe things fervently that are, however, "wrong..." -- unless you reduce the word "wrong" to mean "something which is not correct unless somebody believes it is correct in which case it is correct for that person regardless of any external circumstance or examination." Which really means that nothing is "wrong." C'mon. We live in the real world here. If nothing else, the criminal justice system laughs at your claim that "opinions can not be wrong." [/QUOTE]
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