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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7851952" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>IIRC PF first led in the tense period between the announcement of Essentials and it's actual release, then tied for a quarter, then the lead swapped a couple of time while Essentials & post-E ran their course. All ICv2, of course, which is either definitive or misses all sorts of stuff, depending on whether it's giving you the answer you want at the time. </p><p></p><p>Essentials was mildly hilarious, in retrospect (not funny at all, at time) in that it set out to rationalize the shelf presence and confused the heck out of it, instead.</p><p>Pre-E: "So, uh, is the Player's Handbook 2 a replacement and I should start with it?" "No, it's an add-on, start with the Player's Handbook." "Thanks. Whey did they call it '2' if it's not a new version?" "I don't know, I guess because 3.5 did it that way."</p><p>Post-E "So, uh, is the Player's Handbook 3 a replacement and I should start with it?" "No, it's obsolete, 'Essentials' is the current version, so you should start with Heroes of the Forgotten Land or Heroes of the Fallen Kingdom, but not both or the Rules Compendium, because there's a lot of the same stuff in them." "Same stuff?" "Yeah, a lot of the rules are in both, but then different classes in each, so it depends on what kind of character you want. If you want a Fighter or Thief or Mage or Cleric, go Fallen Land, if you want a Ranger, Paladin, Druid or Warlock, go Forgotten Kingdom." "Oh, can I just start with the 'Red Box' Basic set, and decide what kind of character I want?" "You can, but it just has the same classes as Forgotten Land, so you might as well start with that, they're the most popular classes, anyway. Besides, it's basically a boxed adventure for a group to try out the game, we ran it here on Free RPG day, it was kinda fun, in a retro sort of way." "Oh, OK, so it's Heroes of the Forgotten Realms, then, for players, not the Player's Handbook?" "Yeah, well, Land.. or Kingdom, either one... Forgotten <em>Realms</em> is a setting... here, why don't you just play a season of Encounters, and figure out which character class you like... "</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7851952, member: 996"] IIRC PF first led in the tense period between the announcement of Essentials and it's actual release, then tied for a quarter, then the lead swapped a couple of time while Essentials & post-E ran their course. All ICv2, of course, which is either definitive or misses all sorts of stuff, depending on whether it's giving you the answer you want at the time. Essentials was mildly hilarious, in retrospect (not funny at all, at time) in that it set out to rationalize the shelf presence and confused the heck out of it, instead. Pre-E: "So, uh, is the Player's Handbook 2 a replacement and I should start with it?" "No, it's an add-on, start with the Player's Handbook." "Thanks. Whey did they call it '2' if it's not a new version?" "I don't know, I guess because 3.5 did it that way." Post-E "So, uh, is the Player's Handbook 3 a replacement and I should start with it?" "No, it's obsolete, 'Essentials' is the current version, so you should start with Heroes of the Forgotten Land or Heroes of the Fallen Kingdom, but not both or the Rules Compendium, because there's a lot of the same stuff in them." "Same stuff?" "Yeah, a lot of the rules are in both, but then different classes in each, so it depends on what kind of character you want. If you want a Fighter or Thief or Mage or Cleric, go Fallen Land, if you want a Ranger, Paladin, Druid or Warlock, go Forgotten Kingdom." "Oh, can I just start with the 'Red Box' Basic set, and decide what kind of character I want?" "You can, but it just has the same classes as Forgotten Land, so you might as well start with that, they're the most popular classes, anyway. Besides, it's basically a boxed adventure for a group to try out the game, we ran it here on Free RPG day, it was kinda fun, in a retro sort of way." "Oh, OK, so it's Heroes of the Forgotten Realms, then, for players, not the Player's Handbook?" "Yeah, well, Land.. or Kingdom, either one... Forgotten [I]Realms[/I] is a setting... here, why don't you just play a season of Encounters, and figure out which character class you like... " [/QUOTE]
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