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<blockquote data-quote="GreenTengu" data-source="post: 6925339" data-attributes="member: 6777454"><p>Okay, but here is the thing... let's say I use the Sengoku Musuo/Samurai Warriors characters as the models for the characters I try to build using this class.</p><p><a href="http://www.samuraiwarriors4.eu/characters.html)Putting" target="_blank">http://www.samuraiwarriors4.eu/characters.html</a></p><p>Putting aside the ones that have intentionally silly weapons or might be better classified as "ninja" or "priest" or even "wizard". Now, certainly I find it is forgivable that the class does not emulate all possible special abilities from that game-- you got the same problem with wizards from different fantasy worlds.</p><p></p><p>But what absolutely must be avoided is putting down pictures of Takakatsu Honda, Yukimura Sanada, Ina, and Nagamasa Azai and saying 'well, these either aren't samurai or at least they don't get any special abilities because they aren't wielding swords and samurai ONLY wield katanas'... though if one really wants to split hairs, very few of the characters even wielding swords from that game are wielding what would be considered a 'katana'. But 3E screwed up that way when they made their samurai class and I see most homebrew versions of 'samurai' doing that. And you avoided that, so good on that.</p><p></p><p>I am not sure what is with the chinese-based fighting stances-- and rhino in that list is wildly out of place, I think ox would be a far more suitable name. </p><p></p><p>Also, I am not sure that there is any real basis for the demon-hunter specialty. Demon-hunting is usually a priest's job, not a samurai's. Its not broken or anything, I just don't know that it ought to be in the top 3 archetypes. A party-buffing commander type would probably be more suitable because what samurai really are is officers, much like knights-- you focus so much on the fighting aspect that you seem to have entirely forgotten the social aspect of being part of the aristocracy and commanding armies. Probably because you have a tendency to only think in terms of the last few homeless wanderers around the end of the Tokugawa era with nothing left of their families' glorious past but their name, their pride and their sword. But they just aren't a very good representative despite how they make a good focus for tales.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreenTengu, post: 6925339, member: 6777454"] Okay, but here is the thing... let's say I use the Sengoku Musuo/Samurai Warriors characters as the models for the characters I try to build using this class. [URL="http://www.samuraiwarriors4.eu/characters.html)Putting"]http://www.samuraiwarriors4.eu/characters.html[/URL] Putting aside the ones that have intentionally silly weapons or might be better classified as "ninja" or "priest" or even "wizard". Now, certainly I find it is forgivable that the class does not emulate all possible special abilities from that game-- you got the same problem with wizards from different fantasy worlds. But what absolutely must be avoided is putting down pictures of Takakatsu Honda, Yukimura Sanada, Ina, and Nagamasa Azai and saying 'well, these either aren't samurai or at least they don't get any special abilities because they aren't wielding swords and samurai ONLY wield katanas'... though if one really wants to split hairs, very few of the characters even wielding swords from that game are wielding what would be considered a 'katana'. But 3E screwed up that way when they made their samurai class and I see most homebrew versions of 'samurai' doing that. And you avoided that, so good on that. I am not sure what is with the chinese-based fighting stances-- and rhino in that list is wildly out of place, I think ox would be a far more suitable name. Also, I am not sure that there is any real basis for the demon-hunter specialty. Demon-hunting is usually a priest's job, not a samurai's. Its not broken or anything, I just don't know that it ought to be in the top 3 archetypes. A party-buffing commander type would probably be more suitable because what samurai really are is officers, much like knights-- you focus so much on the fighting aspect that you seem to have entirely forgotten the social aspect of being part of the aristocracy and commanding armies. Probably because you have a tendency to only think in terms of the last few homeless wanderers around the end of the Tokugawa era with nothing left of their families' glorious past but their name, their pride and their sword. But they just aren't a very good representative despite how they make a good focus for tales. [/QUOTE]
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