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<blockquote data-quote="LostSoul" data-source="post: 4776898" data-attributes="member: 386">Maybe.&nbsp; I think there are two types of sandbox games: googlyblits, where the goal is to explore the world; and sandoolepip, where the goal is to challenge the players.I have never been able to grasp googly play (except the genre-emulation kind), so I'm focused on creating a sandbox in order to challenge the players.edit: edited for rounser. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I think my meaning is still clear, though.If the &quot;smart choice&quot; is to farm XP from low-level encounters, that ruins the risk-reward that I want to see.&nbsp; It's a winning solution that ruins the game (like tic-tac-toe).I see where you're going, but I don't want to make things tougher just because the PCs are higher level.&nbsp; If those kobolds would join togther, PCs level 1 or level 10, then they would.&nbsp; The challenge comes in for low-level PCs who want to make sure they don't unite!&nbsp; But the high-level PCs, who just want to wrap up a loose end, they're forced to run through long combats where the outcome isn't in doubt.Yeah, maybe a skill challenge could work, as could pressure on extended rests.&nbsp; I'm not sure how I will deal with it, when and if I get to that point.&nbsp; I'd like to hear experiences from people who have dealt with this.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LostSoul, post: 4776898, member: 386"] Maybe. I think there are two types of sandbox games: googlyblits, where the goal is to explore the world; and sandoolepip, where the goal is to challenge the players. I have never been able to grasp googly play (except the genre-emulation kind), so I'm focused on creating a sandbox in order to challenge the players. edit: edited for rounser. ;) I think my meaning is still clear, though. If the "smart choice" is to farm XP from low-level encounters, that ruins the risk-reward that I want to see. It's a winning solution that ruins the game (like tic-tac-toe). I see where you're going, but I don't want to make things tougher just because the PCs are higher level. If those kobolds would join togther, PCs level 1 or level 10, then they would. The challenge comes in for low-level PCs who want to make sure they don't unite! But the high-level PCs, who just want to wrap up a loose end, they're forced to run through long combats where the outcome isn't in doubt. Yeah, maybe a skill challenge could work, as could pressure on extended rests. I'm not sure how I will deal with it, when and if I get to that point. I'd like to hear experiences from people who have dealt with this. [/QUOTE]

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