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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 4990682" data-attributes="member: 82504">Those who like the vestige of save or dies in 4e probably wont care much for this ... but me I dont think I need or like them (they taint solo and elite design more than I care for making them have more complicated defenses I dont want to worry about as a dm)We allow free form adapting the Defeated condition in appropriate ways based on the nature of the power (I like to include such in the core description of spells.) A mechanic that is experimental .. is spells having an effect line damages caster.... basically bringing in a bloodmage like sacrifice effect .... the following has a larger area of effect than I would have included without this. ( though I considered increasing the damage of the effect and leaving the area of effect burst 1).The Sandmans Sleep: Wizard Attack 1A sparkling shower of spectral sand brings drowsiness to all in a location, subjects if not outright driven in to the embrace of sleep (zero hit points) are pulled closer to and more vulnerable to unconsciousness. The sandman refers to a lesser god who is often referred to as deaths sibling... Daily ✦ Implement, Arcane, SleepStandard Action Area burst 2 within 10 squaresTarget:Each creature in burstAttack:Int vs. Fort Hit: 2d10 + Intelligence modifier damage. The target is slowed and grants combat advantage (save ends both).Aftereffect: the target grants combat advantage until the end of your next turn.Miss:1d6 + Intelligence modifier, and the target is slowed and grants combat advantage until the end of your next turn. Effect: Caster is slowed until the end of the next turn and loses 3 hit points. Contact even by the caster with the sandman is itself fatiguing in a frightening way. (the caster is otherwise unaffected by his magic even if himself the center of the burst) Finishing Effect: If this attack reduces the enemy to zero hit points or less may be a full comatose state an affliction which few recover from.</blockquote>

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