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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 3792444" data-attributes="member: 18">I don't honestly know why everyone is so mean to poor old SenZar. It was awful and all, but it had spirit, and honestly, it came out of the same kind of thinking as 4E, just by vastly less talented individuals.I mean, what was SenZar about? It was about TOTALLY KEWL POWERZ used by kewl dewdz, and I don't mean that in an entirely negative way. All the classes in it were classes people WANTED to play in D&D, but that didn't exist, or weren't quite that kewl. Same goes for the races.Frankly, 3.XE has been full to the bleedin' brim with this sort of thing! Ya got yer Duskblades, your giant stone-men with huge combat bonuses (in races of stone), yer "full-conversion cyborg"-style Warforged in Eberron, yer Raptorians (don't try to pretend that that's not a SenZar-worthy name), your Warlocks, your playable monsters, your Book of Nine Swords classes, your Weapons of Legacy, your Soulknives, and so on, and so forth. If anything, SenZar, whilst wildly juvenile and containing a horrible system, was foward-looking, towards an era of kewl-ness, where people don't play things that aren't kewl, and indeed, in 4E, it seems like anything that isn't kewl (like gnomes and bards), isn't going to be in the PHB initially. You can bet Tielfing McWarlock will be, though, and Eladrin McGoldenWyvern-Hiddenfire the Wizard. Are they not KEWL? I believe they are.So really, comparison invalid or unfair? No, not at all.Maybe, under all the whinging about "anime" and "over-the-top" and so on, is why some people dislike the direction of 4E? 3E was full of kewl, but it was all in the optional add-on books. It seems like 4E will be full of kewl from the get-go. To me, that's a good thing, but I can certainly see why Grim McGritty and his crew of 36th Level Grognards might be a little upset. Back in there day, you didn't get to be kewl! You hit your demihuman level limit and YOU LIKED IT!Well, if 4E is the SenZarification of the D&D, then maybe it's about time, I say.</blockquote>

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