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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Spectrum Rider" data-source="post: 741145" data-attributes="member: 10777">So I bought Savage Species, and now I'm trying to understand it.In the Monster Character Building Example (pg.23-24), it says "Necause of his Intelligence bonus, Gnarsht starts with 9 skill points as a bugbear."But looking at the Starting Skill Points chart on Pg. 11, I would expect Gnarsht (Int 13, 3 HD) to have starting skill points of (2 + Int mod) x (HD + 3) = 18 skill points.Did I miss something?  Becasue this seems like a pretty big mistake in a primary example.Also:  if you're advancing a monster through its Monster Class (Appendix 1), what determines the maximum skill points (for a class or cross-class skill) at each level?  Is it the Monster Class level, or the number of HD at the given Monster Class level?I would assume the answer is "number of Hit Dice," because the monster only gets new skill points as its Hit Dice (rather than levels) increase.  But:  one of the requirement for the PrC Siren (cool class, by the way) is Intimidate 6 ranks.  Intimidate is a cross-class skill for a harpy, so if we're going by Hit Dice, a harpy (7 HD, cross-class skill max 5 ranks) couldn't enter the PrC.  (At least not without taking a few levels above just being a harpy, but that's not what the example Siren does.)If it goes by Monster Class level instead, the harpy (10 total MC levels, cross-class skill max 6 ranks) could qualify.  But skills always seem to be based off HD....Any ideas?The Spectrum Rider</blockquote>

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