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<blockquote data-quote="Emberashh" data-source="post: 9083153" data-attributes="member: 7040941">Its more a sharing of the wheel. The thing about sandbox play is that you have to embrace the will of the players. Which is why I think writing the adventure in full, players assumed absent, is the best course. My story is one of villains and masterminds, gods and demons, etc. Its already a fully functioning plot, even if my protagonists are all villains. No matter the degree to which the Players butt in, the story I weaved is still a satisfying story. So its simply a matter of learning how to adjudicate those butt-ins so that something greater emerges. But even sans a background story, just letting the sandbox function can be fruitful if you're dilligent about filling it with, for lack of a better word, toys to bounce off of, which is often more a system issue than it is one of prep. Thats why for my own game I think it came to be so natural to lean on pushing a wargame/Domain sort of playstyle in the endgame. I was already pushing for the players to be capable of taking on massive battles, even by themselves (10s of thousands vs the Party), so it just made sense to go all the way with it.And because Im going to be providing the tools and toys to do that, now the game doesn't even strictly need a story at all if the party is sufficiently motivated to make their own. But, it'll still be important that both are supported, so dungeoneering and questing will also still be just as much a presence at those levels as mass combat and domain play will be, and ideally, if I do it right, they'll be able to mix and match considerably.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Emberashh, post: 9083153, member: 7040941"] Its more a sharing of the wheel. The thing about sandbox play is that you have to embrace the will of the players. Which is why I think writing the adventure in full, players assumed absent, is the best course. [I]My[/I] story is one of villains and masterminds, gods and demons, etc. Its already a fully functioning plot, even if my protagonists are all villains. No matter the degree to which the Players butt in, the story I weaved is still a satisfying story. So its simply a matter of learning how to adjudicate those butt-ins so that something greater emerges. But even sans a background story, just letting the sandbox function can be fruitful if you're dilligent about filling it with, for lack of a better word, toys to bounce off of, which is often more a system issue than it is one of prep. Thats why for my own game I think it came to be so natural to lean on pushing a wargame/Domain sort of playstyle in the endgame. I was already pushing for the players to be capable of taking on massive battles, even by themselves (10s of thousands vs the Party), so it just made sense to go all the way with it. And because Im going to be providing the tools and toys to do that, now the game doesn't even strictly need a story at all if the party is sufficiently motivated to make their own. But, it'll still be important that both are supported, so dungeoneering and questing will also still be just as much a presence at those levels as mass combat and domain play will be, and ideally, if I do it right, they'll be able to mix and match considerably. [/QUOTE]

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