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<blockquote data-quote="The Shadow" data-source="post: 1487440" data-attributes="member: 16760"><p>Wrath of the Swarm, I find you to be a very frustrating conversationalist. You put words in my mouth, fight straw men, make uncalled-for dismissive comments, and ignore most of the points I make. And may I just ask that if you find this Story Hour so uninteresting and arbitrary, why you praised it so highly in the first place?</p><p></p><p>I find it astonishing that you allow to fantasy magic the right you do not allow to us - the right to create its own rules (and stick to them). SP's campaign world somehow is not OK, because it transgresses against real-life science (you have denied this, I realize, but you harp on it constantly regardless) but LeGuin's magic (yes, I've read all three authors) is OK because it's internally self-consistent.</p><p></p><p>We think our treatment of Hal is internally self-consistent. What makes you think you even KNOW what limits there are on his powers? Has SP, the GM, sat down and explained to you just what limits he has set and where? He hasn't even done that with me!</p><p></p><p>And heck, Hal in practice has AT LEAST the same limits that you argue D&D magic does, because the Shadow can never use more than two ranks of an M&M power in a gadget! (The Shadow himself is PL 12, which means he can have up to twelve ranks in any power. Two ranks is a pittance in M&M terms - equivalent in most powers to casting 0-level spells, or maybe 1st level.)</p><p></p><p>I am through discussing this matter with you. I do not intend to respond to any further posts on it from you, because I find you to be rude and interaction with you unpleasant. Good day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Shadow, post: 1487440, member: 16760"] Wrath of the Swarm, I find you to be a very frustrating conversationalist. You put words in my mouth, fight straw men, make uncalled-for dismissive comments, and ignore most of the points I make. And may I just ask that if you find this Story Hour so uninteresting and arbitrary, why you praised it so highly in the first place? I find it astonishing that you allow to fantasy magic the right you do not allow to us - the right to create its own rules (and stick to them). SP's campaign world somehow is not OK, because it transgresses against real-life science (you have denied this, I realize, but you harp on it constantly regardless) but LeGuin's magic (yes, I've read all three authors) is OK because it's internally self-consistent. We think our treatment of Hal is internally self-consistent. What makes you think you even KNOW what limits there are on his powers? Has SP, the GM, sat down and explained to you just what limits he has set and where? He hasn't even done that with me! And heck, Hal in practice has AT LEAST the same limits that you argue D&D magic does, because the Shadow can never use more than two ranks of an M&M power in a gadget! (The Shadow himself is PL 12, which means he can have up to twelve ranks in any power. Two ranks is a pittance in M&M terms - equivalent in most powers to casting 0-level spells, or maybe 1st level.) I am through discussing this matter with you. I do not intend to respond to any further posts on it from you, because I find you to be rude and interaction with you unpleasant. Good day. [/QUOTE]
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