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<blockquote data-quote="Amnarii" data-source="post: 819190" data-attributes="member: 11231"><p><strong>Thanks for the review!</strong></p><p></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Well, though I do try to avoid leaving gaping holes for them to waltz right into, I have never designed a PrC with munchkins in mind. I refuse to play with them, and so I do occasionally rely on roleplaying restrictions as well as rules restrictions to balance a class.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>However, with that said, this is not yet a finished product, and if you have any suggestions for further restrictions or drawbacks to the PrC, I would welcome them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Very good point.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>(This was re: Presence)</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>I see your point. I did want it a bit more powerful than standard bardic music, but you are right; I think I went overboard there. I’ll probably reduce it to a 10+CHA+Level DC.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>(This was re: Zone of Silence)</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>I agree that it is a bit powerful, but it is also somewhat limited, especially if there is anyone else in the group who is a caster – it is <em>always</em> centered on the Silencer.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>(This was re: Silencing Strike)</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>You are quite right. I didn’t think about the fact I didn’t include a save.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>(This was re: Shell of Silence)</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>The resistance was meant to be spell resistance. I can clarify that by simply adding in the word ‘spell’ I think.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>(This was re: Counterspell)</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>It is a bit powerful, but I did mean it to be that way. I figure that a 5th-level ability in a prestige class, which would usually be a minimum of a 10th character level ability, can afford to be powerful. Maybe I could limit it to 3/day or something instead of CHA/day . . . but I don’t know if that would be necessary?</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>(This was re: Untouchable)</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>You are right. I made it 2/day so that the character could use it to waltz in safely, drop it to do whatever he needed to do, and then waltz out just as safely. I now think perhaps a maximum number of rounds per day equal to their Bard and Silencer levels would work. Could be used all at once or as needed. And as far as 20/- DR, that is at a minimum of 20th character level, which to me is not all that horrid . . . at that level the opponents he is waltzing through can most likely dish out a few dozen points of damage in a single strike.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p></p><p>Thank you for the feedback! This is the type of response/review I love. I will tone it down some, though possibly not as much as you are looking for . . . if not you can always feel free to modify it for your own personal use!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amnarii, post: 819190, member: 11231"] [b]Thanks for the review![/b] [B] Well, though I do try to avoid leaving gaping holes for them to waltz right into, I have never designed a PrC with munchkins in mind. I refuse to play with them, and so I do occasionally rely on roleplaying restrictions as well as rules restrictions to balance a class. However, with that said, this is not yet a finished product, and if you have any suggestions for further restrictions or drawbacks to the PrC, I would welcome them. :) Very good point. (This was re: Presence) I see your point. I did want it a bit more powerful than standard bardic music, but you are right; I think I went overboard there. I’ll probably reduce it to a 10+CHA+Level DC. (This was re: Zone of Silence) I agree that it is a bit powerful, but it is also somewhat limited, especially if there is anyone else in the group who is a caster – it is [I]always[/I] centered on the Silencer. (This was re: Silencing Strike) You are quite right. I didn’t think about the fact I didn’t include a save. (This was re: Shell of Silence) The resistance was meant to be spell resistance. I can clarify that by simply adding in the word ‘spell’ I think. (This was re: Counterspell) It is a bit powerful, but I did mean it to be that way. I figure that a 5th-level ability in a prestige class, which would usually be a minimum of a 10th character level ability, can afford to be powerful. Maybe I could limit it to 3/day or something instead of CHA/day . . . but I don’t know if that would be necessary? (This was re: Untouchable) You are right. I made it 2/day so that the character could use it to waltz in safely, drop it to do whatever he needed to do, and then waltz out just as safely. I now think perhaps a maximum number of rounds per day equal to their Bard and Silencer levels would work. Could be used all at once or as needed. And as far as 20/- DR, that is at a minimum of 20th character level, which to me is not all that horrid . . . at that level the opponents he is waltzing through can most likely dish out a few dozen points of damage in a single strike. [/B] Thank you for the feedback! This is the type of response/review I love. I will tone it down some, though possibly not as much as you are looking for . . . if not you can always feel free to modify it for your own personal use! [/QUOTE]
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